Support these changes to FAA Flight Time NPRM
10-26-2010 | 02:08 PM
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Support these changes to FAA Flight Time NPRM
Got this today from CAPA. Has ALPA sent out anything like this??
The FAA has recently been charged by Congress and the Administration to develop a set of comprehensive new rules regarding "Flight Crew member Rest and Duty Requirements". The proposed changes in the FAA's recently-issued Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) on "Flight and Duty Time" (FT/DT) regulations represents an improvement to current regulations and covers all commercial operations in the spirit of "One Level of Safety".
However, there are some specific items that need to be changed in order to mitigate fatigue for the professional pilot. They are as follows:
1) The flight time limit should not be increased 25%; from 8 hours to 10 hours.
2) The augmented (3-person) flight time limit should not be increased 25%; from 12 to 15 hours.
3) Rest requirements should be 10 hours domestic; and 14 hours international. 9 hours, reducible to 8 hours, is not enough time to achieve restorative sleep, eat, and attend to personal hygiene between duty periods.
4) Domestic augmentation should not be allowed.
Please join us in letting your congressional representatives know the importance of achieving these meaningful improvements to flight and duty time regulations. Your participation in the letter-writing campaign to Capitol Hill is extremely important; it will ensure that your opinions are heard on this most important matter: Pilot Fatigue. Pease send a letter today!
To participate in sending a letter to Congress, follow these few simple steps:
1) Go to www.capapilots.org, click on the "Contact Your Legislators" button on right side of the CAPA Home Page.
2) Under "Current Action Alerts" header, click on "Support These Changes to the FAA's Flight Time/Duty Time NPRM"
3) Enter your zip code in the "Action Alert" box, write your name in the "Your Name" box, enter your sender information below and click "Send Message."
For additional information on this issue, please click on this link "CAPA Flight Time/Duty Time Talking Points"(http://www.capapilots.org/flight-timeduty-time-ftdt-capa-talking-points).
The Coalition of Airline Pilots Associations is a trade association which represents more than 28,000 professional pilots at carriers including American Airlines, Southwest Airlines, UPS Airlines, US Airways, Atlas Air Cargo, Kalitta Air, Polar Air Cargo, Southern Air, Gulstream Air, Cape Air, Miami Air, Omni Air and USA 3000.
The FAA has recently been charged by Congress and the Administration to develop a set of comprehensive new rules regarding "Flight Crew member Rest and Duty Requirements". The proposed changes in the FAA's recently-issued Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) on "Flight and Duty Time" (FT/DT) regulations represents an improvement to current regulations and covers all commercial operations in the spirit of "One Level of Safety".
However, there are some specific items that need to be changed in order to mitigate fatigue for the professional pilot. They are as follows:
1) The flight time limit should not be increased 25%; from 8 hours to 10 hours.
2) The augmented (3-person) flight time limit should not be increased 25%; from 12 to 15 hours.
3) Rest requirements should be 10 hours domestic; and 14 hours international. 9 hours, reducible to 8 hours, is not enough time to achieve restorative sleep, eat, and attend to personal hygiene between duty periods.
4) Domestic augmentation should not be allowed.
Please join us in letting your congressional representatives know the importance of achieving these meaningful improvements to flight and duty time regulations. Your participation in the letter-writing campaign to Capitol Hill is extremely important; it will ensure that your opinions are heard on this most important matter: Pilot Fatigue. Pease send a letter today!
To participate in sending a letter to Congress, follow these few simple steps:
1) Go to www.capapilots.org, click on the "Contact Your Legislators" button on right side of the CAPA Home Page.
2) Under "Current Action Alerts" header, click on "Support These Changes to the FAA's Flight Time/Duty Time NPRM"
3) Enter your zip code in the "Action Alert" box, write your name in the "Your Name" box, enter your sender information below and click "Send Message."
For additional information on this issue, please click on this link "CAPA Flight Time/Duty Time Talking Points"(http://www.capapilots.org/flight-timeduty-time-ftdt-capa-talking-points).
The Coalition of Airline Pilots Associations is a trade association which represents more than 28,000 professional pilots at carriers including American Airlines, Southwest Airlines, UPS Airlines, US Airways, Atlas Air Cargo, Kalitta Air, Polar Air Cargo, Southern Air, Gulstream Air, Cape Air, Miami Air, Omni Air and USA 3000.
10-26-2010 | 02:31 PM
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Got this today from CAPA. Has ALPA sent out anything like this??
The FAA has recently been charged by Congress and the Administration to develop a set of comprehensive new rules regarding "Flight Crew member Rest and Duty Requirements". The proposed changes in the FAA's recently-issued Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) on "Flight and Duty Time" (FT/DT) regulations represents an improvement to current regulations and covers all commercial operations in the spirit of "One Level of Safety".
However, there are some specific items that need to be changed in order to mitigate fatigue for the professional pilot. They are as follows:
1) The flight time limit should not be increased 25%; from 8 hours to 10 hours.
2) The augmented (3-person) flight time limit should not be increased 25%; from 12 to 15 hours.
3) Rest requirements should be 10 hours domestic; and 14 hours international. 9 hours, reducible to 8 hours, is not enough time to achieve restorative sleep, eat, and attend to personal hygiene between duty periods.
4) Domestic augmentation should not be allowed.
Please join us in letting your congressional representatives know the importance of achieving these meaningful improvements to flight and duty time regulations. Your participation in the letter-writing campaign to Capitol Hill is extremely important; it will ensure that your opinions are heard on this most important matter: Pilot Fatigue. Pease send a letter today!
To participate in sending a letter to Congress, follow these few simple steps:
1) Go to www.capapilots.org, click on the "Contact Your Legislators" button on right side of the CAPA Home Page.
2) Under "Current Action Alerts" header, click on "Support These Changes to the FAA's Flight Time/Duty Time NPRM"
3) Enter your zip code in the "Action Alert" box, write your name in the "Your Name" box, enter your sender information below and click "Send Message."
For additional information on this issue, please click on this link "CAPA Flight Time/Duty Time Talking Points"(http://www.capapilots.org/flight-timeduty-time-ftdt-capa-talking-points).
The Coalition of Airline Pilots Associations is a trade association which represents more than 28,000 professional pilots at carriers including American Airlines, Southwest Airlines, UPS Airlines, US Airways, Atlas Air Cargo, Kalitta Air, Polar Air Cargo, Southern Air, Gulstream Air, Cape Air, Miami Air, Omni Air and USA 3000.
The FAA has recently been charged by Congress and the Administration to develop a set of comprehensive new rules regarding "Flight Crew member Rest and Duty Requirements". The proposed changes in the FAA's recently-issued Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) on "Flight and Duty Time" (FT/DT) regulations represents an improvement to current regulations and covers all commercial operations in the spirit of "One Level of Safety".
However, there are some specific items that need to be changed in order to mitigate fatigue for the professional pilot. They are as follows:
1) The flight time limit should not be increased 25%; from 8 hours to 10 hours.
2) The augmented (3-person) flight time limit should not be increased 25%; from 12 to 15 hours.
3) Rest requirements should be 10 hours domestic; and 14 hours international. 9 hours, reducible to 8 hours, is not enough time to achieve restorative sleep, eat, and attend to personal hygiene between duty periods.
4) Domestic augmentation should not be allowed.
Please join us in letting your congressional representatives know the importance of achieving these meaningful improvements to flight and duty time regulations. Your participation in the letter-writing campaign to Capitol Hill is extremely important; it will ensure that your opinions are heard on this most important matter: Pilot Fatigue. Pease send a letter today!
To participate in sending a letter to Congress, follow these few simple steps:
1) Go to www.capapilots.org, click on the "Contact Your Legislators" button on right side of the CAPA Home Page.
2) Under "Current Action Alerts" header, click on "Support These Changes to the FAA's Flight Time/Duty Time NPRM"
3) Enter your zip code in the "Action Alert" box, write your name in the "Your Name" box, enter your sender information below and click "Send Message."
For additional information on this issue, please click on this link "CAPA Flight Time/Duty Time Talking Points"(http://www.capapilots.org/flight-timeduty-time-ftdt-capa-talking-points).
The Coalition of Airline Pilots Associations is a trade association which represents more than 28,000 professional pilots at carriers including American Airlines, Southwest Airlines, UPS Airlines, US Airways, Atlas Air Cargo, Kalitta Air, Polar Air Cargo, Southern Air, Gulstream Air, Cape Air, Miami Air, Omni Air and USA 3000.
But to answer your question, No...ALPA has not put anything like this out. The only thing ALPA has put out is their AGREEMENT to the NPRM as it stands right now. That's right, ALPA supports it just as it is.
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10-26-2010 | 08:10 PM
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FWIW, I got this off the Alpa website
As mentioned above, the FTDT Committee and ALPA ARC participants will submit our comments to the FAA by the November 15th deadline. The basis for comment will be ALPA policy. Once again, outlining these components for you today does not imply ALPA’s agreement or disagreement with the NPRM in any way. As we learn more about the NPRM, we will update you on that information as well as the final comment to the FAA.
As mentioned above, the FTDT Committee and ALPA ARC participants will submit our comments to the FAA by the November 15th deadline. The basis for comment will be ALPA policy. Once again, outlining these components for you today does not imply ALPA’s agreement or disagreement with the NPRM in any way. As we learn more about the NPRM, we will update you on that information as well as the final comment to the FAA.
10-26-2010 | 08:12 PM
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Got this today from CAPA. Has ALPA sent out anything like this??
The FAA has recently been charged by Congress and the Administration to develop a set of comprehensive new rules regarding "Flight Crew member Rest and Duty Requirements". The proposed changes in the FAA's recently-issued Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) on "Flight and Duty Time" (FT/DT) regulations represents an improvement to current regulations and covers all commercial operations in the spirit of "One Level of Safety".
However, there are some specific items that need to be changed in order to mitigate fatigue for the professional pilot. They are as follows:
1) The flight time limit should not be increased 25%; from 8 hours to 10 hours.
2) The augmented (3-person) flight time limit should not be increased 25%; from 12 to 15 hours.
3) Rest requirements should be 10 hours domestic; and 14 hours international. 9 hours, reducible to 8 hours, is not enough time to achieve restorative sleep, eat, and attend to personal hygiene between duty periods.
4) Domestic augmentation should not be allowed.
Please join us in letting your congressional representatives know the importance of achieving these meaningful improvements to flight and duty time regulations. Your participation in the letter-writing campaign to Capitol Hill is extremely important; it will ensure that your opinions are heard on this most important matter: Pilot Fatigue. Pease send a letter today!
To participate in sending a letter to Congress, follow these few simple steps:
1) Go to www.capapilots.org, click on the "Contact Your Legislators" button on right side of the CAPA Home Page.
2) Under "Current Action Alerts" header, click on "Support These Changes to the FAA's Flight Time/Duty Time NPRM"
3) Enter your zip code in the "Action Alert" box, write your name in the "Your Name" box, enter your sender information below and click "Send Message."
For additional information on this issue, please click on this link "CAPA Flight Time/Duty Time Talking Points"(http://www.capapilots.org/flight-timeduty-time-ftdt-capa-talking-points).
The Coalition of Airline Pilots Associations is a trade association which represents more than 28,000 professional pilots at carriers including American Airlines, Southwest Airlines, UPS Airlines, US Airways, Atlas Air Cargo, Kalitta Air, Polar Air Cargo, Southern Air, Gulstream Air, Cape Air, Miami Air, Omni Air and USA 3000.
The FAA has recently been charged by Congress and the Administration to develop a set of comprehensive new rules regarding "Flight Crew member Rest and Duty Requirements". The proposed changes in the FAA's recently-issued Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) on "Flight and Duty Time" (FT/DT) regulations represents an improvement to current regulations and covers all commercial operations in the spirit of "One Level of Safety".
However, there are some specific items that need to be changed in order to mitigate fatigue for the professional pilot. They are as follows:
1) The flight time limit should not be increased 25%; from 8 hours to 10 hours.
2) The augmented (3-person) flight time limit should not be increased 25%; from 12 to 15 hours.
3) Rest requirements should be 10 hours domestic; and 14 hours international. 9 hours, reducible to 8 hours, is not enough time to achieve restorative sleep, eat, and attend to personal hygiene between duty periods.
4) Domestic augmentation should not be allowed.
Please join us in letting your congressional representatives know the importance of achieving these meaningful improvements to flight and duty time regulations. Your participation in the letter-writing campaign to Capitol Hill is extremely important; it will ensure that your opinions are heard on this most important matter: Pilot Fatigue. Pease send a letter today!
To participate in sending a letter to Congress, follow these few simple steps:
1) Go to www.capapilots.org, click on the "Contact Your Legislators" button on right side of the CAPA Home Page.
2) Under "Current Action Alerts" header, click on "Support These Changes to the FAA's Flight Time/Duty Time NPRM"
3) Enter your zip code in the "Action Alert" box, write your name in the "Your Name" box, enter your sender information below and click "Send Message."
For additional information on this issue, please click on this link "CAPA Flight Time/Duty Time Talking Points"(http://www.capapilots.org/flight-timeduty-time-ftdt-capa-talking-points).
The Coalition of Airline Pilots Associations is a trade association which represents more than 28,000 professional pilots at carriers including American Airlines, Southwest Airlines, UPS Airlines, US Airways, Atlas Air Cargo, Kalitta Air, Polar Air Cargo, Southern Air, Gulstream Air, Cape Air, Miami Air, Omni Air and USA 3000.
However, why the difference between domestic and international? That's the one thing that I DO agree with the NPRM on - the rules should be blind to what whether or not the flight crosses a border - flag/domestic should be held to the same standards of fatigue. What's wrong with domestic augmented crews? How is that different than an international augmented crew? What it boils down to is how much flying is done (block), how long the duty day is, the number of legs during the duty period, how the duty day aligns with normal sleep patterns (allowing for the effects of crossing time zones), and the ability to rest during the duty period (ie. augmented crews). Differentiating between domestic/international (domestic/flag) really doesn't make any sense.
10-26-2010 | 08:49 PM
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FWIW, I got this off the Alpa website
As mentioned above, the FTDT Committee and ALPA ARC participants will submit our comments to the FAA by the November 15th deadline. The basis for comment will be ALPA policy. Once again, outlining these components for you today does not imply ALPA’s agreement or disagreement with the NPRM in any way. As we learn more about the NPRM, we will update you on that information as well as the final comment to the FAA.
As mentioned above, the FTDT Committee and ALPA ARC participants will submit our comments to the FAA by the November 15th deadline. The basis for comment will be ALPA policy. Once again, outlining these components for you today does not imply ALPA’s agreement or disagreement with the NPRM in any way. As we learn more about the NPRM, we will update you on that information as well as the final comment to the FAA.
10-27-2010 | 05:39 AM
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ALPA has not given their consent to this. They even came out saying while some portions of the proposal were a step in the right direction, other parts were not. They essentially gave the same response as the other unions.
As was stated by our MEC chairman on last week's conference call, ALPA decided to hold off on giving a full in-depth response because there was an opportunity to address and analyze the issue at the BOD. The timing of the NPRM coincided with the BOD allowing a full response to be developed prior to the comment period closing.
I prefer a thoughtful, in-depth, reasoned response by my union and not just a knee-jerk response. A deadline is a deadline, so I am willing to give ALPA a chance to develop a well-thought out, researched response before I add my opinion to the NPRM. That doesn't mean I don't have one already.
As was stated by our MEC chairman on last week's conference call, ALPA decided to hold off on giving a full in-depth response because there was an opportunity to address and analyze the issue at the BOD. The timing of the NPRM coincided with the BOD allowing a full response to be developed prior to the comment period closing.
I prefer a thoughtful, in-depth, reasoned response by my union and not just a knee-jerk response. A deadline is a deadline, so I am willing to give ALPA a chance to develop a well-thought out, researched response before I add my opinion to the NPRM. That doesn't mean I don't have one already.
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