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450knotOffice 05-20-2011 12:12 PM

Latest I hear is that AA has called down to seniority number 9628 and they have yet to finish filling the first July class.

bailee atr 05-24-2011 05:51 AM

So there are 1540 still to be called?

Sliceback 05-24-2011 07:14 AM

Bail - not offered recall is just under 1200.
Still on the street(includes deferrals) 1800+.
250ish AE guys waiting to flow up.

eaglefly 05-24-2011 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 997762)
Bail - not offered recall is just under 1200.
Still on the street(includes deferrals) 1800+.
250ish AE guys waiting to flow up.

So roughly 2100 potentials over the next 5 years or so. Of the 1500 furloughees yet offered recall and the final batch of flows, tough to say how many of those will actually make the move before it's necessary to bring in the first street hire.

I'll guess 500 out of that 1500 and the end of next summer to get there, but that's just my guess. There's some wildcards out there under the radar though.

bailee atr 05-24-2011 03:46 PM

Thanks for the info, sliceback

BeastFromDaEast 06-03-2011 08:34 AM

Heard AA is going to be recalling the the max number of pilots they can handle in August. Can anyone confirm or know what that number is?

PurdueFlyer 06-03-2011 08:54 AM

Hopefully they do, AA pilots have suffered a long time

Sliceback 06-03-2011 11:26 AM

Beast - from the APA President today -

I have already received a verbal commitment that beginning in August, management will increase the pace of pilot recalls to the highest level that the airline’s training resources can accommodate.

EMBFlyer 06-03-2011 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 1002884)
Beast - from the APA President today -

I have already received a verbal commitment that beginning in August, management will increase the pace of pilot recalls to the highest level that the airline’s training resources can accommodate.

Does this mean that they may be looking at hiring in the future (nearer not further)?

Sliceback 06-03-2011 01:25 PM

My heads starting to spin from the various numbers but here goes -

A guy has been making very accurate predictions on how far down the list each class will go. He also tracks the recall acceptance rate that actually requal at AA(ie, not MLOA, deferral, etc, etc).

Basic recall of his numbers is he expects 100(?) guys to accept recall and then there are 165(?) AE guys to come through.

He projected hiring next August if we stayed at recalling 25 per month.

If my recall of his projections is correct he's looking at approx. 250-300 guys before AA starts off the street hiring. If that's correct you can divide 250-300 by any increased recall rate and that will be the new estimated 'off the street' hiring date.

System wide union meeting June 8th. No whispers on what it's about so no predictions from me. However, negotiating email today said they believe the company is serious about getting a deal shortly. If true, and it comes to pass, and if the company has some sort of internal growth plan to fight UA/CO and DL/NW, who knows what 2012/2013, or beyond, will look like....however, I wouldn't hold my breath.


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