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subrat 06-07-2011 05:45 PM

Rumor on the street is that american has already worked out a deal to buy these...

http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikiped..._CSeries-1.jpg

And in the mean time fly these to replace some of the 80s....Americans plan is to divest eagle and make it an all ATR's/ERJ fleet...Getting around scope by moving the 700's to AA....Its still just a rumor

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3597/...71ef0140e3.jpg

acl65pilot 06-07-2011 05:48 PM

Hearing from my AA contacts that they are setting up to recall everyone. Hope it's true

lakehouse 06-07-2011 06:01 PM

ya thats it, AA will have all flying over 50 seats by mainline pilots, I can see that, 2012 1billion loss. They will have a business model extremely different from UAL/DAL.

Sliceback 06-07-2011 07:36 PM

al65 - 30-35 recalls a month eff. August. No planned stop to recalls.

EagleDriver 06-07-2011 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1004838)
ya thats it, AA will have all flying over 50 seats by mainline pilots, I can see that, 2012 1billion loss. They will have a business model extremely different from UAL/DAL.

Yeah! Just like the billions SW has lost with all flying at mainline. The RJ's were designed for one thing only, Scope busters. Hopefully, pilot unions have stopped the camel from entering the tent, we'll see. RJ's are only marginally cost effective at $40/bar oil, but at $100/barrel forget about it.

Within five years, regionals should return to what they are designed to do - fly fuel efficient turboprops over short distances to add to mainline load factors.

EagleDriver 06-07-2011 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1004806)
What I dont get with AMR, is they need a solution to this scope stuff, and Eagle. It seems easy to me that both sides just give up a little, and that would be to get 100 seat jets and put them on the AA side with AA pilots, and for each 100 seat, Eagle gets a 70 seat. It seems to be the only win/win, but I guess that might be too logical.

This is easily the most shortsighted post of the year! Tell the truth now. You are really a management troll sent here to post dumb ideas for dumber pilots to bite on, right?

lakehouse 06-08-2011 05:47 AM

not at all, and SKYW lost money because they purchased other airlines. But I mean seriously, do you think AMR has any plan to put all the crj700 and all new airplanes on AA with AA pilots/FA/MX/Gate Agents ETC, I mean come on seriously? While United/DAL have TONS of CRJ700/900 doing their domestic flying. I am not saying I want it that way, I would love to see all jet flying go mainline, but AMR with their loses is trying to be outsource flying, not bring the CRJ700 to AA.

tone 06-08-2011 05:48 AM

Just a quick question: Not to put a damper on all the off the street hiring we expect but with no capacity added, and with only trickle retirements wouldn't that make them only a couple hundred pilots short? So theoretically, they may not even make it to the bottom of the list this time around even with only 1 out of 6 coming back. Just wondering if anyone has heard a hard number of how many pilots they need to get on line??

Sliceback 06-08-2011 12:34 PM

tone - no number on how many warm bodies they need. Guessing some of the manning bump is for the upcoming duty hours being changed by the FAA/Congress.

Sliceback 06-08-2011 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 1003562)
50/month was earlier this year. June/July have been 25 per month.

Mistake. 50 +/- was last fall. This spring was 15-25. Training on other fleets appears to be pretty busy so 30-35 might be the short term capacity limit.

In 90 days we'll have perfect 20/20 lookback clarity.


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