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Flyby1206 06-06-2011 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1004073)
We are all hearing those rumors. The 773 rumor is pretty valid - so far we are up to 6 and it seems like AMR orders another one every 2 months or so - trickle orders. I foresee a fleet of at least 20 773s.

The Airbus rumor is gaining traction - I've heard from several folks in high places that a new fleet is coming. I've even heard of an "airine within AMR" domestic only using A319s/20s/21s.

The next few months will be very interesting. Contract should be wrapped up by the end of the year. They are gearing up for new hires by next year at the latest.

Would AMR be allowed to purchase A319/320/321s considering their agreement with Boeing? Or would these new Airbii come from purchasing another airline (Spirit, Frontier, VX, jetblue)?

aa73 06-06-2011 02:13 PM

I'm not sure Flyby... but I do know that if there's a way around ANY kind of contract, AMR can usually find it. ;)

Flyby1206 06-06-2011 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1004141)
I'm not sure Flyby... but I do know that if there's a way around ANY kind of contract, AMR can usually find it. ;)

Haha! Ain't that the truth. Whatever happens I hope it works out well for the pilots

Mink 06-06-2011 08:07 PM

Airline within an airline? I hope not. Delta Shuttle and Shuttle by United were such screaming successes last decade - not. Sort of like Hollywood, can't come up with anything original, so let's try a sequel...

pilot141 06-06-2011 10:25 PM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2375/...4c12e90fcb.jpg
Sweet! What could possibly go wrong!

aa73 06-07-2011 10:19 AM

I don't quite believe the airline within an airline rumor. I do believe we'll be seeing a big order for 100-120 seaters very soon.

On another note, AA has just confirmed two August classes with no end in sight. They are also bumping up the recalls from 30 to 35/month. Our recall gurus have indicated that the bypass rate now is around 15%, so they are anticipating burning through the rest of the furloughees in about 5-6 months. They have called through seniority #9674.

The momentum is picking up.... hopefully our (industry leading!) contract is coming soon, in time for the first new hires.

Diesel1030 06-07-2011 10:35 AM

Keep hearing rumors of some deal with jetBlue to be announced. Anyone hear something similar?

eaglefly 06-07-2011 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Diesel1030 (Post 1004537)
Keep hearing rumors of some deal with jetBlue to be announced. Anyone hear something similar?

That's been going on for sometime now. The only viable economic aircraft for the near future in the seat range AA wants is the Embraer 195. My guess is an acquisition/merger with Jet Blue and an E-195 order by AMR.

Whether the 195's would go to AA mainline or JB is the wildcard. Those aircraft (in whomever's hands) would take a lot of the former AA flying that Eagle is now doing with the smaller (and economically dead) Embraer's. If AMR and the APA are really as cozy as the claims, then I'd think those aircraft would go to AA and the Jet Blue operation would either be folded into AA or operated as a single pilot seniority list (AKA "airline within an airline").

Let's see if the very near future has any bombshells.

tone 06-07-2011 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1004530)
I don't quite believe the airline within an airline rumor. I do believe we'll be seeing a big order for 100-120 seaters very soon.

On another note, AA has just confirmed two August classes with no end in sight. They are also bumping up the recalls from 30 to 35/month. Our recall gurus have indicated that the bypass rate now is around 15%, so they are anticipating burning through the rest of the furloughees in about 5-6 months. They have called through seniority #9674.

The momentum is picking up.... hopefully our (industry leading!) contract is coming soon, in time for the first new hires.

Do you mean the bypass rate is 15% or recall rate is 15%? So is only 1 out of 6 returning, or is 5out of 6 returning? If so, it must be a bunch of previous deferrals coming back?

aa73 06-07-2011 11:44 AM

Tone - only 15% are accepting recall.


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