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450knotOffice 06-28-2011 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by EagleDriver (Post 1014719)
I also remember something about allowing only 20 Eagle flowthroughs per month (or per class, don't remember) to prevent staffing shortfalls at Eagle. That could allow some off the street hiring sooner and at the same time cost some Eagle guys quite a few numbers on the seniority list if AA increases recalls/hiring to historical highs of 80-100/month.

No. That 20 per month was restricted to the 824 pilots slots given a one out of every two new hire positions. The Flowthroughs with numbers come over as called.

450knotOffice 06-28-2011 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 1015027)
Eagledriver - Correct. AE can limit transfers to 20 per month. While it's doubtful for manning reasons that AE would allow more than 20 per month to transfer I don't believe it's prohibited.

Not quite correct. The 20 per month limit that Eagle may impose is restricted to the 824 pilots who will go over when hiring starts. The flowthroughs with seniority numbers come over as called by AA.

Surprise 06-28-2011 01:35 PM

The important question is how old are all of the guys set to flow up? I assume they're the most senior Eagle pilots and therefore a little bit older, too? Or, asked another way, could I still be a widebody captain by my early 40s?

(I still need something to dream about.)

eaglefly 06-28-2011 01:43 PM

The final group of numbered flowthru's range from about 40 to a few in their early 50's, so they're still geezers. A few may fall outside that. The question is how many of them will flow at first year pay and bottom barrel RSV in NY or MIA.

It's a tough life and other domiciles and/or hard lines will be a long road for them. Of course, the addition of a 100-seater could change both issues as well as a better RSV system and better staffing.

They'll have to have polished crystal balls.

BeastFromDaEast 06-30-2011 01:17 PM

APC still shows the most junior CA as a 1992 hire in LGA. Just curious whether there have been some upgrades along with all the recalls / flowthroughs?

aa73 06-30-2011 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by BeastFromDaEast (Post 1016084)
APC still shows the most junior CA as a 1992 hire in LGA. Just curious whether there have been some upgrades along with all the recalls / flowthroughs?

That is correct, Jr CA (native) is 1992 hire. Jr TWA CA is around '89 TWA hire. However, every month now there have been 30-35 new CA vacancies, so things are starting to move. Keep in mind, we furloughed from '93-'96, and started hiring again in '98. So when the last '93 hire upgrades, it jumps up to a '98 hire.

L'il J.Seinfeld 06-30-2011 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1016181)
That is correct, Jr CA (native) is 1992 hire. Jr TWA CA is around '89 TWA hire. However, every month now there have been 30-35 new CA vacancies, so things are starting to move. Keep in mind, we furloughed from '93-'96, and started hiring again in '98. So when the last '93 hire upgrades, it jumps up to a '98 hire.

That would give AA a quicker upgrade timeline than UPS, especially for lower 48 domiciles. Of course, UPS FOs make more than AA capts.

EXTW 07-01-2011 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1016181)
That is correct, Jr CA (native) is 1992 hire. Jr TWA CA is around '89 TWA hire. However, every month now there have been 30-35 new CA vacancies, so things are starting to move. Keep in mind, we furloughed from '93-'96, and started hiring again in '98. So when the last '93 hire upgrades, it jumps up to a '98 hire.


Slight correction, Jr. former TWA CA is September 1988 hire. ;)


EXTW

aa73 07-01-2011 05:17 AM

Thanks, Ex... My "around" caveat is plus or minus a couple years. adjusted for aging memory. ;)

EXTW 07-01-2011 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1016345)
Thanks, Ex... My "around" caveat is plus or minus a couple years. adjusted for aging memory. ;)


Must be the hair roots digging deep. ;)


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