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Originally Posted by RI830
(Post 1020784)
Just yesterday, you were an Eaglet....and now it seems you have drunk a couple gallons of da kool aid. The future of Eagle is as unpredictable as AA.
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1020928)
One of them giving Eagle guys a bad rep. Keep it up....:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 1020831)
Everything about that post indicates uncertainty. How you came to any other conclusion leads me to believe there's a couple of bad jugs on your radial.
You know well enough, the more people you scare off....the less people below you when the the furlough man comes knockin! |
Doubt AA will stop the recalls in the fall. They are severly short staffed. Unless there's a HUGE cutback coming, which is always possible, but I haven't heard of huge capacity cuts yet. Plus, early retirements and new rest rules coming. Any validity to the stopped recalls? Anyone? just curious
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Originally Posted by RI830
(Post 1021074)
My response to you was more in regards to what seems to be a HIGH level of dislike for your current locale. You weren't this vocal when you were an Eaglet.
IMHO, my comments about my "current locale" are fairly balanced. There's good and not so good everywhere. I said the same of my experiences of Eagle while there too and pulled no punches with my opinions. To what degree others consider them is their own choice. Commuting on RSV with one of the worst RSV systems in the industry and poor staffing is never fun, however I signed up for this and thus accept it. That doesn't mean I won't acknowledge it, but aside from that aspect, my current local is an improvement over my past and it's future is FAR more likley to be more rewarding then my past.
Originally Posted by R1830
(Post 1021074)
You know well enough, the more people you scare off....the less people below you when the the furlough man comes knockin!
But of course you didn't, as this freudian slip belies the thought you'd enjoy it if me and hundreds of AA pilots were furloughed (or re-furloughed), otherwise you'd have used the term "if". I knew many Eagle pilots who salivated at that thought while I was there and it seems you're of this cloth (and your compadre chastises me for giving Eagle pilots a bad rep.......tsk, tsk). Scratch two more jugs. Additionally, it's folly to think any given pilot would be "scared off" going to any carrier based solely on opinion on a internet pilot forum, so this thought is something I don't know at all, but it seems you do and this too is error. It's unfortunate you're so misguided about my statements and opinions, but considering what's going on at Eagle, I can see that stress does indeed cloud the judgement and perception. I have many friends still at Eagle very concerned about the future and my sympathies go out to them and you. I certainly wish better for you, then apparently you do for me. |
Originally Posted by tone
(Post 1021080)
Doubt AA will stop the recalls in the fall. They are severly short staffed. Unless there's a HUGE cutback coming, which is always possible, but I haven't heard of huge capacity cuts yet. Plus, early retirements and new rest rules coming. Any validity to the stopped recalls? Anyone? just curious
I believe any possible fireworks, like TA's or more aircraft deliveries beyond the slow stream of 738's are still a ways off, but 40/month is better than nothing. |
Señor Fly,
I will admit that I am new to this forum. But the posts that i have read from you on the Eagle life thread vs this thread are quite different. On my opinion or background.....I spent 6 years in the right seat at Eagle and left for a career choice that would hopefully get me and my family to AA. Had I stayed.....I would be a DCE and pending the 824 issue....could hold a spot to go to AA. So I think that I have the background to understand a few things about AMR and the "operations" there. As for the furlough comment, isn't it "when" not "if"? I never wish for anyone to get furloughed.....I have the full intention to go to AA if able....why the he!! would I want you or anyone else to see the street? As to the scaring people away......there are too many people here and on Eagle Lounge (which I have been since 05) that make decisions based on info that they can gain from these forums. I have the power of "The Force" and know when to raise the bs flag.:D Simply.....I read a lot of negativity into your posts here and think that you have become much more critical and negative since your "flowing".
Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 1021089)
I think many here will actually claim me to be MORE vocal then, then now.....or at least equal.
IMHO, my comments about my "current locale" are fairly balanced. There's good and not so good everywhere. I said the same of my experiences of Eagle while there too and pulled no punches with my opinions. To what degree others consider them is their own choice. Commuting on RSV with one of the worst RSV systems in the industry and poor staffing is never fun, however I signed up for this and thus accept it. That doesn't mean I won't acknowledge it, but aside from that aspect, my current local is an improvement over my past and it's future is FAR more likley to be more rewarding then my past. You did mean ""IF" the furlough man comes knockin", didn't you ? But of course you didn't, as this freudian slip belies the thought you'd enjoy it if me and hundreds of AA pilots were furloughed (or re-furloughed), otherwise you'd have used the term "if". I knew many Eagle pilots who salivated at that thought while I was there and it seems you're of this cloth (and your compadre chastises me for giving Eagle pilots a bad rep.......tsk, tsk). Scratch two more jugs. Additionally, it's folly to think any given pilot would be "scared off" going to any carrier based solely on opinion on a internet pilot forum, so this thought is something I don't know at all, but it seems you do and this too is error. It's unfortunate you're so misguided about my statements and opinions, but considering what's going on at Eagle, I can see that stress does indeed cloud the judgement and perception. I have many friends still at Eagle very concerned about the future and my sympathies go out to them and you. I certainly wish better for you, then apparently you do for me. |
40 per month is the announced number. No talk of stopping(but it changes fast when it does happen....)
Furloughs? Could happen at any time. The question is will it? Based on the current landscape it would appear to be less likely. $.02 worth of info there. Once the significant retirements start the risk of furloughs rapidly approaches zero. Next question - when do the 'significant retirements' start? Pick an annual number to qualify as 'significant'. If I had to pick a year I'd say 2014. So do you wait for the 'protection' of furlough risk being very low by waiting until 2014 or do you jump onto the list ASAP to get a better seniority number? (if you don't know the answer you must be new to the game...) Good luck. |
Originally Posted by RI830
(Post 1021177)
Señor Fly,
I will admit that I am new to this forum. But the posts that i have read from you on the Eagle life thread vs this thread are quite different. On my opinion or background.....I spent 6 years in the right seat at Eagle and left for a career choice that would hopefully get me and my family to AA. Had I stayed.....I would be a DCE and pending the 824 issue....could hold a spot to go to AA. So I think that I have the background to understand a few things about AMR and the "operations" there. As for the furlough comment, isn't it "when" not "if"? I never wish for anyone to get furloughed.....I have the full intention to go to AA if able....why the he!! would I want you or anyone else to see the street? As to the scaring people away......there are too many people here and on Eagle Lounge (which I have been since 05) that make decisions based on info that they can gain from these forums. I have the power of "The Force" and know when to raise the bs flag.:D Simply.....I read a lot of negativity into your posts here and think that you have become much more critical and negative since your "flowing". I think you've been hanging around Eagle lounge too long. From my past experience, it's hands down the most dysfunctional, caustic and perception altering airline website in existance filled with idiots and also IMO, moderated by a meglomaniac who has been allowed to take control by an absentee administrator. Spending too much time there listening to that drivel will bend your mind to the point of difficulty in accurately understanding anyone elsewhere in the industry on other forums. Go back and read my posts on this thread alone and I'll think you'll see more reality then fantasy. As for AA, again as I believe my posts on this thread will confirm, the jury is still out on AA (and Eagle's) future. It seems I haven't scared you off from AA, so why would others be certain to flee before arrival ? Again, I disagree with your perceptions of my comments about AA and Eagle past or present. |
Originally Posted by Sliceback
(Post 1021245)
40 per month is the announced number. No talk of stopping(but it changes fast when it does happen....)
Furloughs? Could happen at any time. The question is will it? Based on the current landscape it would appear to be less likely. $.02 worth of info there. Once the significant retirements start the risk of furloughs rapidly approaches zero. Next question - when do the 'significant retirements' start? Pick an annual number to qualify as 'significant'. If I had to pick a year I'd say 2014. So do you wait for the 'protection' of furlough risk being very low by waiting until 2014 or do you jump onto the list ASAP to get a better seniority number? (if you don't know the answer you must be new to the game...) Good luck. Before we talk about whether to jump on the list, perhaps we should at least wait for an announcement of street hiring, which would be months before actual employment offers. That easily, could be a year or more away. |
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