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chuck416 07-16-2011 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by Mink (Post 1023473)
Funny you mention SQL - I fly out of there now fairly often. Never been an MD80 CA, was just a lowly F100 FO during my short AA career in early 2001.

Excuse the 'butting-in' on this conversation....but I thought all the F100s were gone by 2001. Is this a mis-type, or am I mistaken. I'm an A/A 1992 hire, furloughed in Jan of 1994, and now at Delta, via the NWA merger (confused enough???)
chuck

Mink 07-16-2011 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 1023507)
Excuse the 'butting-in' on this conversation....but I thought all the F100s were gone by 2001. Is this a mis-type, or am I mistaken. I'm an A/A 1992 hire, furloughed in Jan of 1994, and now at Delta, via the NWA merger (confused enough???)
chuck

Not sure when the last one left the property, but they had around 75 of them pre-9/11 (when I was there), and got rid of them all post-9/11 during the "shrink to profitability" process.

jiminmem 07-16-2011 06:38 AM

I didn't realize ORD was that small and senior for you guys. I always thought it was almost as big as DFW for some reason.

johnso29 07-16-2011 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by jiminmem (Post 1023535)
I didn't realize ORD was that small and senior for you guys. I always thought it was almost as big as DFW for some reason.

I could be way off track here, but if AA shrinks mainline flying in ORD then they can also shrink mainline flying in STL(which I think as a base is identified SLT :confused: ) because per the agreement with PMTWA pilots STL size must be a % of ORD. I don't know if the Supplemental CC agreement is still in effect or not.

Very good chance I'm wrong though.

Sliceback 07-16-2011 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 1023507)
Excuse the 'butting-in' on this conversation....but I thought all the F100s were gone by 2001. Is this a mis-type, or am I mistaken. I'm an A/A 1992 hire, furloughed in Jan of 1994, and now at Delta, via the NWA merger (confused enough???)
chuck

F-100 TTFN date -

DFW - spring 2004
ORD - fall 2004

aa73 07-16-2011 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1023610)
I could be way off track here, but if AA shrinks mainline flying in ORD then they can also shrink mainline flying in STL(which I think as a base is identified SLT :confused: ) because per the agreement with PMTWA pilots STL size must be a % of ORD. I don't know if the Supplemental CC agreement is still in effect or not.

Very good chance I'm wrong though.

Nope, you're not wrong. The size of ORD and DFW dictate the size of STL. STL must always maintain a certain % of TWA CA slots in direct proportion to ORD and DFW.

Regarding the size of ORD: it's a relatively big base, but not as big as DFW. It's still relatively senior... probably the second or third most senior base after DFW.

New hires next spring is way more than just a possibility. If they keep up the 35/40/month and the # of deferrals stays the same, we will be through the entire furlough list by the end of this year. Then about 140 AE pilots flow through, and then new hires would begin.

Oscar13601 07-18-2011 04:39 AM

Cool!!!! : )

RI830 07-18-2011 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 1023773)
Nope, you're not wrong. The size of ORD and DFW dictate the size of STL. STL must always maintain a certain % of TWA CA slots in direct proportion to ORD and DFW.

Regarding the size of ORD: it's a relatively big base, but not as big as DFW. It's still relatively senior... probably the second or third most senior base after DFW.

New hires next spring is way more than just a possibility. If they keep up the 35/40/month and the # of deferrals stays the same, we will be through the entire furlough list by the end of this year. Then about 140 AE pilots flow through, and then new hires would begin.

Million dollar question......when does AA HR/Pilot recruitment flip the switch and start accepting apps?

IronWalt 07-18-2011 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by RI830 (Post 1024667)
Million dollar question......when does AA HR/Pilot recruitment flip the switch and start accepting apps?

Well BEFORE anyone agrees to interview with AA, the pilots applying should form a committee that requires all AA management people to interview to determine their ability to manage an airline.

Oh and they are required to send in a stool sample too. :D

eaglefly 07-18-2011 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by IronWalt (Post 1024669)
Well BEFORE anyone agrees to interview with AA, the pilots applying should form a committee that requires all AA management people to interview to determine their ability to manage an airline.

Oh and they are required to send in a stool sample too. :D

I heard of one guy who had completed phase one and got the hemoccult package to "complete" and send in prior to phase 2. During that time he got a class date from NWA and since he was from MSP, he accepted as that was his first choice.

He glued a piece of corn to the sample stick and mailed that in during the first week of class at NWA and took a picture to boot. I could only shake my head.

I half-heartedly said he should have chosen a nectarine pit instead.


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