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06-26-2011 | 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sliceback

Latest DK estimate has the recalls or F/T's being done with in April 2012.

Can you take it to the bank? No. But DK's estimates have been better than anyone else's. "If AA continues to hire/recall at the current rate" etc, etc, is a significant part of DK's estimates.

what's fueling the hiring? age 65 isn't for another 1.5 years.... growth? or..

06-27-2011 | 05:08 AM

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what's fueling the hiring? age 65 isn't for another 1.5 years.... growth? or..

Alzheimer's

06-27-2011 | 06:18 AM

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what's fueling the hiring? age 65 isn't for another 1.5 years.... growth? or..

Potential growth?
New reserve FAR's?
Potential increase in retirements?
To reduce possible manning that is too tight?
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Only one thing is for sure, management isn't telling us why.

06-27-2011 | 06:47 AM

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what's fueling the hiring? age 65 isn't for another 1.5 years.... growth? or..

People are bailing out early. They are way understaffed.

06-27-2011 | 08:02 AM

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People are bailing out early. They are way understaffed.

ok, thanks... so early retirements have started. I wonder then if when 65 sunsets, will there be a spike in the retirements there, or will it remain stable since a lot of the pressure has been taken off by early retirements. Anyone have a age/seniority list?

06-27-2011 | 09:00 AM

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Retirements were single digits for the first couple months of the year. Last two months averaging 18. Avg for the year is 11 per month. Recalls is double that amount.

06-27-2011 | 10:35 AM

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The last AA pilot on the list is number 10808. There are, however, an additional 151 Eagle pilots on the bottom of the list. I am not sure if they come over in seniority order or if they will be mixed in with new-hires.

Those last 151 Eagle pilots are flow throughs with seniority numbers, so they will be called to AA in seniority order before hiring starts.

As has been said, it seems that recalls/flowthrough should finish by April. Off the street hiring should begin afterward.

06-27-2011 | 01:41 PM

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I also remember something about allowing only 20 Eagle flowthroughs per month (or per class, don't remember) to prevent staffing shortfalls at Eagle. That could allow some off the street hiring sooner and at the same time cost some Eagle guys quite a few numbers on the seniority list if AA increases recalls/hiring to historical highs of 80-100/month.

06-28-2011 | 06:23 AM

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Eagledriver - Correct. AE can limit transfers to 20 per month. While it's doubtful for manning reasons that AE would allow more than 20 per month to transfer I don't believe it's prohibited.