Rest rules delayed to Nov/22/2011
07-12-2011, 11:47 AM
#36
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Furlough/Gun Driver
Posts: 437
[QUOTE=oldcarpilot;1021289]If you think there isn't a shortage, then you weren't at a regional 3-4 years ago before the 65 rule went into effect. And now its WAY worse. Yes there are a LOT of people who are qualified for the job, furloughed and ready to work. But what I saw and upgraded through 4-5 years ago was insane. The majors were taking people at 10+ per day from my one little airline. We were hiring at least 20 per month and getting on average 10 to show up for class. High time? 400 hrs. If the rule goes to 1500 then there is no hope. (that won't happen) But if it even goes above 300 hrs, it will be crazy hard to staff at the regional level. So after the regionals can't staff what they need to, mainline will have to takeover the flying. Where do those pilot come from?[/QUOTE]
Isn't this what we are all hoping for??
Flying moved back to mainline due to inability of regionals to staff all those 50 and 70 seaters? There are plenty of pilots at the regionals to move up to the mainline aircraft. With any luck regionals will shrink back to flying 1900's, and Saabs.
Wouldn't it be ironic if a lack of pilots available took care of the scope problem? I know, I need to get off the crack pipe.
Isn't this what we are all hoping for??
Flying moved back to mainline due to inability of regionals to staff all those 50 and 70 seaters? There are plenty of pilots at the regionals to move up to the mainline aircraft. With any luck regionals will shrink back to flying 1900's, and Saabs.
Wouldn't it be ironic if a lack of pilots available took care of the scope problem? I know, I need to get off the crack pipe.
07-14-2011, 05:17 AM
#37
New Hire
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by Airdale
These rules really need to get in place. I was just scheduled for a reduced rest overnight on day 1 of a 3 day trip. I think I slept a total of 4.5-5hrs before reporting at 6:30am. That is just unacceptable in this business.
Which part is unacceptable, the part that the company put you on reduced rest or the fact that YOU put yourself on reduced rest??
07-14-2011, 06:56 AM
#38
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2010
Position: EMB-145 CA
Posts: 456
[QUOTE=dosbo;1021481]
Sadly I think if we all are smart this is the best way to do it. It's not going to be as cheap to outsource anymore. It's an advantage for us and we need to use it.
Originally Posted by oldcarpilot
If you think there isn't a shortage, then you weren't at a regional 3-4 years ago before the 65 rule went into effect. And now its WAY worse. Yes there are a LOT of people who are qualified for the job, furloughed and ready to work. But what I saw and upgraded through 4-5 years ago was insane. The majors were taking people at 10+ per day from my one little airline. We were hiring at least 20 per month and getting on average 10 to show up for class. High time? 400 hrs. If the rule goes to 1500 then there is no hope. (that won't happen) But if it even goes above 300 hrs, it will be crazy hard to staff at the regional level. So after the regionals can't staff what they need to, mainline will have to takeover the flying. Where do those pilot come from?[/QUOTE]
Isn't this what we are all hoping for??
Flying moved back to mainline due to inability of regionals to staff all those 50 and 70 seaters? There are plenty of pilots at the regionals to move up to the mainline aircraft. With any luck regionals will shrink back to flying 1900's, and Saabs.
Wouldn't it be ironic if a lack of pilots available took care of the scope problem? I know, I need to get off the crack pipe.
Isn't this what we are all hoping for??
Flying moved back to mainline due to inability of regionals to staff all those 50 and 70 seaters? There are plenty of pilots at the regionals to move up to the mainline aircraft. With any luck regionals will shrink back to flying 1900's, and Saabs.
Wouldn't it be ironic if a lack of pilots available took care of the scope problem? I know, I need to get off the crack pipe.
07-16-2011, 07:42 AM
#40
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,943
Originally Posted by Flamer
Airing inability to make safe decisions on a public forum. Priceless.
It goes both ways.
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