Delta posts $765M profit in 3Q
#152
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"You are aware that your "LEC REPS" do not receive any sort of override whatsoever correct? They do not get trip drops for any LEC business. Representing pilots in the CP office? Off days. LEC meetings? Off days. In the larger bases you have Reps that are going to the airport 16 days a month to fly and then 8 or 9 days a month doing representations etc. This work does not get done by magic."
Reps do get trip drops, but not for any of the above which probably takes up most of their time.
Simply stating that Reps are entitled to trip drops ignores the overwhelming percent of their time they spend representing you on their off time when they are not entitled to trip drops as your LEC rep.
#153
Of course it is fact...in your world (and Carl's world I suppose); and no matter how much sense the rest of Carl's post makes, it is these emotional, Ad Hominem attacks that is so detestable and reminiscent of the USAPA movement, that assures the ultimate failure of DPA....of course, that is just my opinion (not a "fact")
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#155
During peacetime Delta is the world's largest consumer of jet fuel, edging out the Department of Defense. So even a small move in oil prices has an impact on the bottom line of a company that flies at least 700 of its own large and regional airplanes and counts more than 1,400 aircraft under its companywide umbrella.
Read more here: How financial speculation in oil prices ruins airline profits | McClatchy
Read more here: How financial speculation in oil prices ruins airline profits | McClatchy
#157
So somehow, recklessly wasting your dues money by forcing your union to pay back all the flight pay loss money has become a rallying cry for an independent union. Yes, our plan is to waste your dues money when we don't have to. Why, because your pay will come from Delta Air Lines instead of Delta Air Lines. Awesome plan.

As has been stated many times, the fix to this is take all money from flight pay loss paid by the company and give it back to the pilot group as increased salary. Then our dues would increase the exact same amount so that our union guys would still get their flight pay loss, but they would get it from dues money...not management. Next straw man argument...
Carl
#158
More masterful work. Why "debit cards" and not "credit cards." Everyone knows that an organization the size of ALPA uses corporate credit cards for purchasing and cost accounting so "credit cards" doesn't sound menacing enough. No, they use "debit cards" because that conjures up images of cash payments with no accountability. I mean who really records all the times they buy a cup of coffee at Starbucks with a debit card. Who could ever track where these mysterious debit cards are being used?
Carl
#159
Uh.. I disagree with this in a sense. If DALPA were paying representatives, you and others would be squawking about the amount of work that you are getting for your money. I think that is a slippery slope too Carl.
#160
He starts with FACT all bolded as if that proves it. Here is quick fact. C2K pay for a 767 Captain was $268 per hour. At the time he posted this a 767 Captain's pay was $182 per hour. Average pay hours during C2K was 83 hours per pilot. ALPA uses 87 hours for committee members and 92 for the Negotiating Committee which is the only committee that are designated pilots.
C2K: 268 x 83 = $22,244
Average Committee guy : 182 x 87 = $15,834
Average Delta line holder : 182 x 87 = $15,834
Negotiating Committee : 182 x 92 = $16,744
If you count the per diem of $1,000 per month you do not get to C2K pay, no matter how you slice it. It is not a fact it is pure bunk. Plus, does anyone think that working more hours after bankruptcy is a pay raise? Please, someone tell me that the DPA doesn't think we get a pay raise when we work more hours.
C2K: 268 x 83 = $22,244
Average Committee guy : 182 x 87 = $15,834
Average Delta line holder : 182 x 87 = $15,834
Negotiating Committee : 182 x 92 = $16,744
If you count the per diem of $1,000 per month you do not get to C2K pay, no matter how you slice it. It is not a fact it is pure bunk. Plus, does anyone think that working more hours after bankruptcy is a pay raise? Please, someone tell me that the DPA doesn't think we get a pay raise when we work more hours.
Carl
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