USAPA loses LOA93
12-13-2011, 08:11 AM
#121
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Question: (Dwight Schrute style) Did the other 747 crews go to United with the Pacific routes?
I believe United got some Pan Am 747SPs as well as some Pan Am L-1011s in that transaction and there were quite a few Pan Am pilots who went with the aircraft.
Interestingly those L-1011s were later sold to Delta and were referred to as "PUD" airplanes". (Pan Am United Delta)
12-13-2011, 12:00 PM
#123
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Is this the only time in history that pilots switched airlines with the aircraft out of seniority while the rest of the seniority list lost their jobs?
12-13-2011, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Ya know.. to post something like that shows a complete and utter lack of "clue" - for lack of a better word - that you have.
Originally Posted by tsquare
It is also typical of a guy that is at the top of the food chain with absolutely ZERO chance of losing his job under any circumstance short of a total US economic meltdown.
Originally Posted by tsquare
You are full of BS, and I am throwing the flag on this Carl. You should be ashamed of this kind of crap. It is beneath even you.
Originally Posted by tsquare
The only credit I will give you is that you recognize it for what it was.. scare tactics,
Originally Posted by tsquare
and I am actually amazed that you did that since you seem to daily genuflect at the altar of SWA/SWAPA.
Carl
12-13-2011, 06:01 PM
#125
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Is this the only time in history that pilots switched airlines with the aircraft out of seniority while the rest of the seniority list lost their jobs?
12-14-2011, 07:51 AM
#126
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I have no idea what this comment would have to do with anything in my post that you reference.
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
. I don't have sympathy for the AirTran guys because they showed themselves to be completely manipulatable by fear. But SWA/SWAPA definitely dealt out the fear.
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
That's because I call them as I see them as opposed to not wanting to face the fact we have a terrible contract, and a union/management combination in love with outsourcing us. It's not genuflecting. It's simply a statement of fact.
Carl
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12-14-2011, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
This ^^ is the part of your post. You 'have no sympathy for the AirTran guys because'... well.. I think you can read what you wrote. And my "insult" as you call it is a "statement of fact" as you are so fond of saying, and I'll stand by it. You have not a clue as to what it would be like to put your job on the line - and please don't insult me by coming back with the while strike thing, because you know damn good and well that there would be an end to that, and it is a totally different thing. Your job was never reeeeeally in jeopardy at that point, and you know it. You have no real concept of fear by any true comparison. You are so far up the chain that you can't even imagine it.
The AirTran guys had a newly passed federal law on their side, but they willingly voted away those protections due to a fear campaign dished out by SWA and SWAPA. I just can't sympathize with a group who are manipulated by fear.
Originally Posted by tsquare
No Carl, it's genuflecting. You do it on an almost daily basis.
This reminds me of my ex-wife. Sometimes she was just in the mood to fight and facts didn't matter. So go hump somebody else's leg on this one dude, cause I aint playin anymore.
To the rest of the thread, I apologize for the drift.
Carl
12-14-2011, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
First off, you don't know what it's like to strike and walk away from your job now do you. Second, you don't even know who I am. This is my fourth airline and you have no clue as to my experiences.
The AirTran guys had a newly passed federal law on their side, but they willingly voted away those protections due to a fear campaign dished out by SWA and SWAPA. I just can't sympathize with a group who are manipulated by fear.
Is it "genuflecting" when I say that SWA and SWAPA dished out the fear campaign?
This reminds me of my ex-wife. Sometimes she was just in the mood to fight and facts didn't matter. So go hump somebody else's leg on this one dude, cause I aint playin anymore.
To the rest of the thread, I apologize for the drift.
Carl
The AirTran guys had a newly passed federal law on their side, but they willingly voted away those protections due to a fear campaign dished out by SWA and SWAPA. I just can't sympathize with a group who are manipulated by fear.
Is it "genuflecting" when I say that SWA and SWAPA dished out the fear campaign?
This reminds me of my ex-wife. Sometimes she was just in the mood to fight and facts didn't matter. So go hump somebody else's leg on this one dude, cause I aint playin anymore.
To the rest of the thread, I apologize for the drift.
Carl
There is no such thing as thread drift on anonymous forums... it's all about the airline business, so it's all good.
12-14-2011, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
The AirTran guys had a newly passed federal law on their side, but they willingly voted away those protections due to a fear campaign dished out by SWA and SWAPA.
Carl
12-14-2011, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by shoelu
If you fix this portion to read SWA, I'll buy it. SWAPA's sole input was, "Yes, they are serious."
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