Your USAF flight history/summary report (can't remember exactly what it's called) shows how many sorties you flew under each category of qualification. And yes, they are very familiar with USAF products, at least at SWA.

 

Sounds like another trip to my ARMS shop...I am really getting on their nerves these days!

 

Is there anyone who can speak on behalf of SWA (not .. I did it this way) who can put to rest what the hell the following means to USAF heavy drivers?

"**PIC for this purpose is defined as Captain/Aircraft Commander of record, not simply the sole manipulator of the controls. For military personnel, Southwest Airlines will allow flight time logged as "Pilot in Command" (PIC) only if you are the Captain/Aircraft Commander, Evaluator, or Instructor Pilot. Primary time will only be considered PIC on a specific aircraft after an individual upgrades to Aircraft Commander n the appropriate aircraft. Time logged as "Other Time" will not be considered."

Thanks.

 

And the problem with this is that for that past week or 2, since the update, mine has been set to the apparent default of "all carriers" so now FedEx has been able to see my SWA specific LOR and SWA has been able to see my FedEx-specific resume. Not sure if that really matters, but it's my opinion that "all carriers" should NOT be the default setting. My aircraft flight time totals were not accurate either. "King Air 90/200" time in one profile and "King Air C90/B200" on another got combined as 2 totally different types, doubling up the flight time totals to a lot more than what I actually have. Its all fixed now...

 

Bump .... Bueler? Bueler? Bueler?

 

I am pretty sure this is speaking to aircraft that take off with three or more pilots but only one aircraft commander . . the aircraft commander can't log all of time as PIC. . .just a guess.

 

Call them and they will tell you exactly what they are looking for.

 

I went through 2 successful interviews at SWA (us poolies had to interview twice). Here's how it works:
As a KC-10 guy, all of your PRI, SEC, and INSTR time since AC upgrade counts for your "PIC". Completely disregard the OTHER (especially when using the military conversion for your "Total Time"). It is up to you whether to include Eval time or not; I have heard convincing arguments both ways but you are never the AC when giving a checkride so keep that in mind.
Now you can really get into the weeds on some of these details, so be conservative and able to justify your numbers... if you do that, the logbook portion of your interview will be a non-event. After all, you have official documentation of your flying history in hand.

Some people also take an arbitrary percentage off the top of their PIC (a common cut is 10%), because there were times where you flew locals or augmented missions where you logged "Primary" but didn't technically sign for the jet as the AC on the orders. Since the AF doesn't track "AC hours", you would take this cut to be conservative. IMHO, SWA doesn't care. In two separate interviews, I was not asked one question about when I was the AC and when I wasn't. Also keep in mind that there were times that you were the AC on the orders but sat in the blue seats logging "Other" time - and you dropped every single one of those hours, right? Honestly, it all comes out in the wash. It is totally up to you whether you take a cut off the top of your PIC or not. (Anecdotally, I did not take an extra percentage cut but my good buddy did and we both got hired, for what it is worth).

Also, some KC-10 guys are careful to discount any of their time logged when doing their AC Phase II (D-level) training, since technically you are not certified as an AC yet for those two missions. Unfortunately, it can be tough to nail down a cert date that is a decade old. Being meticulous with your hours is a good thing and again I would be shocked with any questions about AC cert dates versus initial AC Form 8 dates.

Simply put, make sure your military conversion-added PIC, SIC (read:copilot time), and INST time adds up to your military conversion-added total time MINUS all OTHER time... just don't forget to take the OTHER out before the conversion!

 

Hello all,

I interviewed last year unsuccessfully. Just started going through Pilot Credentials again to bring things up to date and it looks like they have changed it substantially.

Out of curiosity, what is everyone doing with the "landings" numbers in the flight time grid? I've never tracked landings and don't want to fabricate numbers.

Thanks in advance.

 

You are the AC of record if you are giving a checkride to a First Pilot or CoPilot, since you signed for the aircaft and are evaluating their performance.