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Old 03-10-2012, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
Love your Bobby Orr avatar Gomer!

We had twins first, then another two kids after that. We NEVER traveled with them when they were in the "Terrible Two's" because, you cannot control an out of control 2yr. old. BUT we were traveling as non-revs, and in that capacity you don't want to be 'that guy' with the unruley kids and get into a squabble with a P/O'd F/A, and risk your passes, so we just stayed at home until they were older.

When the twins were about 4 we finally took a trip from BOS to MCO to visit the In-Laws. Back in those days, you could sit in First Class with little kids as non-revs, but my wife had been a F/A and there was no way we were going to sit up there with two 4yr. olds!

So I told the gate agent we would gladly take seats in the back. She just glared at me and said, "You will sit where I tell you to sit!" Oh Kay...so she hands us 4 seats in F/C...

When we boarded the airplane (an L1011) I talked to the F/A at the door, and told her I wanted to be in the back, WAYYY in the back, but the agent gave me F/C, and I was going to find some seats in the back, if that was OK with her. She said Sure, no problem. (flight wasn't too full).

We walked to the back, and I found a nicely dressed family of 4, with two older kids, and I said, "How would you all like to sit in First Class today?" I handed my 4 tickets to Dad, told him I was a non-rev and my little kids would be a disruption, so he gladly took them and they moved up while we took our rightful place in the back of the bus.

Later in the flight, the F/A's came back and thanked us many times. My kids weren't bad, no tantrums, but they were 4 and active. When we finally got to MCO, one older lady sitting near us said, "How did you get your kids to behave so well?" I said, "I told them if they opened their mouths, or got out of their seats, the mean F/A's would throw them out the door!"

She had a pretty good laugh over that.

To this day, those twins (now 23) have never used their passes...I wonder why not?
Classy move Timbo...no doubt the FA's were appreciative. I also avoided the non-rev experience as much as possible in those days but when we had to fly it usually worked out well.
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Old 03-10-2012, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingtips View Post
+1 its what I wondered. Stupid is, as stupid does.
Who is stupid?
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Originally Posted by N9373M View Post
Benadryl! Benadryl!
+1,000! absoultely essential
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hvydvr View Post

Originally Posted by N9373M View Post
Benadryl! Benadryl!.....
+1,000! absoultely essential

Maybe the FA's could have followed this lead:

Baby Drug Flight Attendant Cops Plea - CBS News
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Originally Posted by Gomerglideslope View Post
If I remember correctly, most car seats are not FAA approved for use on an airplane.
That is why you buy one that is approved by the FAA before you go on vacation.
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:37 PM
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I think I just saw a news flash that Gloria Alred is on her way to defend this poor family!
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gomerglideslope View Post
If I remember correctly, most car seats are not FAA approved for use on an airplane.
You might be surprised. Look on the side where the car seat has the NHSA sticker and there might be an FAA-approved sticker as well.
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HercDriver130;1148686[B
]Bottom line is....perhaps they should have thought about just that situation before even attempting such a vacation. [/B]Hell I wouldn't even take my 2 or 3 year old child (when they were that age) to the movies much less put them on a plane for 4+ hours.... crazy. Its not even controlling a child... these are toddlers that are going to act up... people should be courteous of others and not put themselves in that situation.

Bingo - Don't put yourself in the situation in the first place.

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Old 03-10-2012, 04:28 PM
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The dad is quoted saying he was holding the kids down with all his might.

When the kid relies on you for food, comfort, diaper cleaning, drink, bathing, play and love if they're out of control when they get a bit older it's NOT the kid's fault.

And if there are real medical, mental, or emotional issues maybe the vacation wasn't the best idea in the first place.
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Don't worry, Blue guys; our "quarterback" will be counseled by leadership to review the consequences of his "audible". I love professional pilot leadership that thinks they'll fool us by pretending we're in high-school, sigh...
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