Age 60: Picketing ALPA
10-20-2006 | 06:57 PM
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Never ceases to amaze me how people insist on trying to change age 60 to their benefit, while at the same time screwing the career expectations of others. I sure hope age 60 stays for a number of reasons, but one in particular is the financial impact that keeping the higher paid folks around will have on the industry. You guys don't deserve anything more than the forty somethings and thirty somethings behind you....So stop your crying, plenty of 135 flying to be done!
ALPA got this one right!
ALPA got this one right!
Since most ALPA top out at 12 years the 35 year old replacing the 60 year old have the exact same pay rate. Sorry sonny.
10-20-2006 | 06:59 PM
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Tell me where to foward said information. I'd love to go at 55 but am not sure what that would do to my already meager retirement.
10-20-2006 | 07:25 PM
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Why are your needs more important than mine?
But the real issue is why do you think your carrier expectations are more important than the guys in their 20's and the guys in their 30's? I can't speak for the guys in their 40's as I'm not there yet, but speaking as someone in their early 30's, my career goals would suffer as a byproduct of raising the age. Before anyone brings up tragedy into the equation (a la 9/11), age 60 is a controllable factor in this equation, catastrophes are not and we're talking about things we can control.
So again, respectfully, why are your needs more important than mine?
10-20-2006 | 08:37 PM
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They aren't, your needs are more important to you and my needs are more important to me. Your career expectations are something you arbitrarily come up with and are as volatile as the world in which we live. So I'm guessing if something changed you would adjust those expectations, as most of us have, and if they were not satisfactory you would find something else to do. As the guys approaching 60 have been told there are many 135 jobs out there.
10-20-2006 | 10:16 PM
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No need for that. I'm not sure what to put in the search function.
Let me try again. All your profile refers to is a military staff background...yet you speak out on airline subjects. I don't think these subjects are the norm for Air Staff discussions (but I may be wrong...much has happened since I retired).
What airline background do you have?
Simple question...can't be that hard to answer.
Let me try again. All your profile refers to is a military staff background...yet you speak out on airline subjects. I don't think these subjects are the norm for Air Staff discussions (but I may be wrong...much has happened since I retired).
What airline background do you have?
Simple question...can't be that hard to answer.
However, if you actually chose to go to the search function and put in search by user name (in this case, ANDY) OR, even more simply, clicked on my name and then clicked on, 'find more posts by andy,' most of your questions would be answered.
10-20-2006 | 10:19 PM
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Nah, I don't bother discussing that or the senior pilots' greed. I prefer to reference the published CAMI reports with respect to the 'U' curve that starts upward at age 55.
10-21-2006 | 04:27 AM
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What really is scary, and unfortunately the passengers are not able to see it, is that there are crewmembers like you with such blatantly selfish and immature thought processes driving jets. Take a poll amongst the flying public (especially after the Lexington embarrassment): do they want mature, experienced pilots, or immature hotheads like you and the other like-minded posters on these forums?
10-21-2006 | 04:41 AM
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Good luck with the recall plans.
What did you do when on active duty?
10-21-2006 | 05:26 AM
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BEHOLD OV1 - you sound like Charleston Heston. Keep holding your breath for an apology gramps because it's not coming! You guys knew the policy when you started your careers now you want to change it to benefit your personal agenda.
You can say goodbye to the seniority list if this legislation is passed. But then again, you guys don't care because you're already senior enough to screw everyone below you.
Here's two words for ya: play golf.
You can say goodbye to the seniority list if this legislation is passed. But then again, you guys don't care because you're already senior enough to screw everyone below you.
Here's two words for ya: play golf.
payoff. Lets see you live on $2000 a month flyboy
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10-21-2006 | 05:45 AM
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They aren't, your needs are more important to you and my needs are more important to me. Your career expectations are something you arbitrarily come up with and are as volatile as the world in which we live. So I'm guessing if something changed you would adjust those expectations, as most of us have, and if they were not satisfactory you would find something else to do. As the guys approaching 60 have been told there are many 135 jobs out there.
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