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Old 10-22-2006 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by shackone
What did you do when on active duty?
[sarcasm off] I enlisted in the AF somewhere around day 75 of the hostage crisis. Spent a year in Korea as an enlisted weather observer. While there, applied to and was accepted for 1) an enlisted position on typhoon chasers, and 2) a slot to the Air Force Academy prep school. While not the sharpest tool in the shed, I opted for #2, since as long as I could slog out 5 years (bonus year for the prep school), I had a guaranteed pilot training slot.
Struggled through the zoo, went to Vance, was near the bottom of the graduates of my class; 2/3s of our class washed out. Took my KC-135 to Ellsworth followed by a T-38 IP tour in DLF followed by an RC-135 AC/IP tour.[/sarcasm off]
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Old 10-22-2006 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by shackone
In case they both experience an erection lasting more than four hours at the same time.
I don't care who you are...that there is FUUNNNNYYYY!!!!!
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Old 10-22-2006 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Packer Backer
They are so out of touch they did a poll of their membership on the age 60 rule. We all know what the results were. Did SWAPA do a poll? Or do they simply have a vocal minority driving their agenda?
SWAPA has done 3 votes...the first in the mid '90s was defeated...it wasn't a straight up Age 60 vote but it was dealing with some Age 60 related issues.

In '99 it was a straight up vote (no dollar amount associated with changing it, just do you favor changing)...it was voted 60/40 in support of change. Same result in mid '03, 60/40 in support of change. Currently SWAPA's legislative agenda includes changing Age 60....one of the founders of APAAD is from SWA along with some other major players (some since retired but still working the issue for others who wish for the change to occur). Hope that answers your question.
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Old 10-23-2006 | 05:17 AM
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Old 10-23-2006 | 05:35 AM
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Where's that FDX age 60 train wreck Bob?
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Old 10-23-2006 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainMark
must be colorado public schools...
Hey, I resemble that remark!
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Old 10-23-2006 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
Never ceases to amaze me that people will try to use the agument about the higher paid folks. Since most ALPA top out at 12 years the 35 year old replacing the 60 year old have the exact same pay rate. Sorry sonny.
Maybe so, but then that pilot is replaced by a senior FO who is maybe also past year 12. Then, that FO is replaced by a less senior FO who is only around year 9. Then, that FO is replaced by a fairly junior FO who is only at year 5. Then that FO is replaced by a really junior FO or senior SO at year 2 or 3. Then, that pilot is replaced by a new S/O, which leaves (finally) a nice new spot for a new hire at 25K or heaven forbid the recall of a FURLOUGHED pilot.

Nice try sonny. (middle finger picture here)

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Old 10-23-2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Falconjet
Maybe so, but then that pilot is replaced by a senior FO who is maybe also past year 12. Then, that FO is replaced by a less senior FO who is only around year 9. Then, that FO is replaced by a fairly junior FO who is only at year 5. Then that FO is replaced by a really junior FO or senior SO at year 2 or 3. Then, that pilot is replaced by a new S/O, which leaves (finally) a nice new spot for a new hire at 25K or heaven forbid the recall of a FURLOUGHED pilot.

Nice try sonny. (middle finger picture here)

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Sorry sonny! When one pilot retires it puts 9 to 12 in training for a new position. Your looking at 9 to 12 pilots on full pay for 2-4 months not flying one revenue trip. Very, very expensive!
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Old 10-23-2006 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
Sorry sonny! When one pilot retires it puts 9 to 12 in training for a new position. Your looking at 9 to 12 pilots on full pay for 2-4 months not flying one revenue trip. Very, very expensive!
So when the 380 comes online or the 757.........keeping over 60 guys will change the costs of that? Right George. and I'm almost as old as you.
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Old 10-23-2006 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
Sorry sonny! When one pilot retires it puts 9 to 12 in training for a new position. Your looking at 9 to 12 pilots on full pay for 2-4 months not flying one revenue trip. Very, very expensive!
Wow Hunter, you have figured out that training costs the company money. Congrats sonny. The hypothetical captain still gets replaced by a new hire or a furloughee.

Nice try sonny.

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