RedeyeAV8r

OOPS .i'll fix it...........

fecav8r

See, there's the problem. We don't get the choice. If the regs are changed and increase the block hours, it won't be selective. It will be across the board. So to appease a very small segment of the population, you screw the vast majority. Or atleast the opportunity is there for a bonin'. Most of the guys on this post speak from experience when they say it is a bad idea.

RedGuy

What happens at an airline if you tell them your to tired to fly? Where I work the trip either just gets past on to the next guy or canceled, no questions asked. Our CP has been a freight pilot since before I was born and stresses to all of us if your tired, just stop, no harm no foul. They'd rather we pass up a trip than bend an airplane or worse kill our selves. So I don't have alot of pressure to fly into any situation I don't want to. Would you get fired at an airline?

fecav8r

Theoretically, it's the same thing. But if you have guys doing it now and the regs are only 8 hours, what do you think is going to happen when it goes to 10 or more. You'll have even more pressure on crews to fly tired. And more crews going fatigued. It's just not a good idea. If they want to go higher, there are ways to do it within the current system, i.e. extra crews, RFO's, etc. Bottom line, it's a money issue and nothing else.

TonyC

That's pretty much what happens at our place, too. Boss just says, "Come back when you're ready for more." We just tell our customers, "Sorry, the pilot was too tired. Otherwise, it would be Absolutely, Positively here."









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fecav8r

I have pushing for the 10 guys to get all of the trips that were "passed on to the next crew"

HotMamaPilot

You have "freight dog" on your pic. This lowers your credibility about duty time; and your opinion, although appreciated, is not recognized

HotMamaPilot

Bull$hit; I doubt that would really be his response if he's short handed. lol

jwes

Back to the original idea, I can't remember how many tests NASA has done on fatigue and the effects on the human body. Although; they never seem to get the FAA to impose new flight rules and duty rest... Now JBlue does one test with a few pilots and a doctor with their own definition of what fatigue is, and things my change to a 9 hour day? Give me a brake. I wonder what the actual tests showed? Maybe the pilots showed fatigue with less then 8 hours and they are trying all sorts of formulas to show otherwise....If you put enough money (Lobbying) behind anything, it will get past....LOOK OUT, 9hr, 10hr, 11hr.... P.S. Yaaaa my 50th post....

Gman

Dream on, like you had the guts to tell one of us he can't ride because we don't need a union. Maybe we at JetBlue should consider not to take any of you socialist, unionhampered, defunct airline transportation workers (avoiding the word 'pilots')

Read on:

Looks like you JetBlue Bashers got some needed ammo from the nation’s most trustworthy news source.
As always, the NY Times , CNN, Al-Jazera and other drive-by media outlets fail to tell the whole story.

Ever flown a coast to coast in about 6h, then went to the hotel trying to sleep for 8h- during daytime?
Then get up again and fly back.
I guarantee you that you are more tired on arrival at the east coast than when turning the airplane and flying
11 hours.
That’s why we looked into this. If the FAA screwed up the legalities – that’s their problem.
Let’s wait for some lawsuit after all our happy customers can now claim guinea pig status.
I am sure you guys will be pleased…