Jetblue Fatigue Study
10-26-2006 | 05:48 PM
#22
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What, is it some kind of badge of honor to press the duty limits everyday? Sounds like you are just the guy to join the JB koolaid crowd. If I block more than 30 hours in a month, I bid really poorly. Call me crazy, but I have no desire to max out the FAR limits each day/night.
10-26-2006 | 05:54 PM
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Well apparently I have a different view on the whole idea. Since for the flying I do the more hours I can fly the more and longer trips I can do, which equals more money in my pocket. I don't max out my duty day every day, and if I feel I'm too tired to fly, I don't fly. I however don't have to stop because I'm tired very often, usually only if it's one of those days that started at 11 or 12 at night before I got to bed. Not looking for a badge of honor it's just that personally 10hrs doesn't wear me out, and when I went to an 8 hour day flying single pilot, that's like being on vacation. But apparently the union mentality runs deep with airline pilots, so I'm wasting my time trying to convince anyone in this section.
And just What do you think the majority of "those" days would be?
Red eyes from the West Coast........and trying doing it everyday for a week like we do at Fedex..we don't less duty block time limitations we need more!
10-26-2006 | 05:54 PM
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Well apparently I have a different view on the whole idea. Since for the flying I do the more hours I can fly the more and longer trips I can do, which equals more money in my pocket. I don't max out my duty day every day, and if I feel I'm too tired to fly, I don't fly. I however don't have to stop because I'm tired very often, usually only if it's one of those days that started at 11 or 12 at night before I got to bed. Not looking for a badge of honor it's just that personally 10hrs doesn't wear me out, and when I went to an 8 hour day flying single pilot, that's like being on vacation. But apparently the union mentality runs deep with airline pilots, so I'm wasting my time trying to convince anyone in this section.
10-26-2006 | 06:01 PM
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That should even make it easier, because you know your going to fly at that time ahead of time and should plan your sleep accordingly. If it was a schedule you did all the time, you should be able to adjust to sleeping during the day. Back when I worked ground support I worked midnights for 5 years, I was so used to sleeping during the day that it took a few months to get used to sleeping at night when I started flying.
10-26-2006 | 06:08 PM
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Well apparently I have a different view on the whole idea. Since for the flying I do the more hours I can fly the more and longer trips I can do, which equals more money in my pocket. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ................................................Bu t apparently the union mentality runs deep with airline pilots, so I'm wasting my time trying to convince anyone in this section.
Your right, you have a different view.................your wasting your time.
It ain't a UNION metaility, it is a safety mentality..................
Apparently with you...............Safety is for Sale for $$$$.
10-26-2006 | 06:10 PM
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That should even make it easier, because you know your going to fly at that time ahead of time and should plan your sleep accordingly. If it was a schedule you did all the time, you should be able to adjust to sleeping during the day. Back when I worked ground support I worked midnights for 5 years, I was so used to sleeping during the day that it took a few months to get used to sleeping at night when I started flying.
10-26-2006 | 06:15 PM
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One question... have you ever flown nights for a week straight? If you have, great. If you haven't you don't have the perspective to comment on "planning ahead." It's real easy to plan ahead, but those plans usually don't include the maid at the hotel knocking on your door 2 hours after you got to sleep, or little Johnny coming into the bedroom and asking Dad to take him to soccer practice. And I bet when you were working ground support you were going home to your own bed every day. Probably had a situation that enabled you to get a good 8 hours sleep. And you probably did it 5 days a week, 4 weeks a month. Unfortunately the skeds that most of us at FedEx work under aren't that conducive to staying on the same cycle. Just my two cents worth.
I have worked for FedEx for 14 years..............nuff said.
Ignore the screen name and avtar......
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10-26-2006 | 06:33 PM
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One question... have you ever flown nights for a week straight? If you have, great. If you haven't you don't have the perspective to comment on "planning ahead." It's real easy to plan ahead, but those plans usually don't include the maid at the hotel knocking on your door 2 hours after you got to sleep, or little Johnny coming into the bedroom and asking Dad to take him to soccer practice. And I bet when you were working ground support you were going home to your own bed every day. Probably had a situation that enabled you to get a good 8 hours sleep. And you probably did it 5 days a week, 4 weeks a month. Unfortunately the skeds that most of us at FedEx work under aren't that conducive to staying on the same cycle. Just my two cents worth.
And no safety is not for sale, I have turned down trips because I was just too tired, it happens. But I'd rather have the option for my self to determine when I'm alright to fly a long day or not, not have the government tell me when I'll be too tired to fly.
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