No I don't. I'm just someone who knows a good deal when I see it because i'm able to get past my initial disappointment and I have actually read throughout the TA and asked my reps questions and gotten an understanding of this very complex document. I'm no longer focusing on just one aspect of the TA. It's not the best deal by any stretch of the imagination however, it's a very good deal considering the economic environment we are in, what our counterparts at other major carriers are receiving now (the NMB WILL take this into consideration), and the expansion of mainline and simultaneous and significant overall reduction in DCI. Although I can't say for certain, I am confident that turning this thing down will not work out well for us and we will be kicking ourselves in the butt for years to come because of all of the mainline lift we will lose behind that bad decision. We are still losing money behind the initial rejection of the JCBA. Who's bright idea was that. It is my personal observation that RA is no pushover and is able to make a BUSINESS decision. Can we? It's not about fear, but a BUSINESS decision.

You're right, it is a business decision. Business involves risk in order to earn rewards, and I for one am willing to take that risk. Thanks for answering regarding ALPA...it just seemed that the tenor of your posts were reaching an almost shrill level.

Oh, it's fine if he does...I'm simply saying that one's background may cloud judgement to some extent. Plus I think it's important to be honest here among friends. If not, then this forum loses credibility.

That right there is hands down the funniest thing ever written on the interwebs... Reminds me of the Monty Python "funniest joke" skit. It cant be viewed all at once or death will ensue.

Coffee spat on monitors.... chairs turned over... I think I even strained a chest muscle..

Forum.... credibility...

Funny funny stuff Elvis... Thank you very much...

Why do you bother, T? Are you dishonest in what you post? Seriously?

Oh, and let that be a lesson to you T, don't drink and read this forum! ;)

LMAO!!!! Yous Guys!

Awwww you know I'm just messing with ya....

T, I think you probably ROFLYFAO more than anybody on here! I've never done that, but I have small children in the house.

"Elvis" was actually my Air Force nickname/callsign.

I kind of look at this as chatting in the crew van or at dinner with other crews.

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Word of the day regarding the TA: "apoplectic". Just came up on my iPad from dictionary.com and it seems to apply.

While that seems to make sense on the surface, it really begs the question why are our reps telling us these rules specifically will shred about 300 pilot positions? Where are they getting that from?

Naaaah, I am nowhere near having a stroke over this. I am actually a very happy guy. This TA is way more of a better deal for the bottom 1/3rd of the list than it is for the top half... Vote no.. I couldn't care less. But don't then complain about the increase in RJs and stagnation it will cause you..

And FWIW, I view these forums as nothing more than a place to chat too... other than that, I place no real credibility for hidden bits of unknown information in any of these forums.