I think you need to work on those mad math skills because you've compounded a one time potential reduction. It could be 4/6.5/3/3 worst case.

 

I'm getting bad? Sorry I hurt your feelings. What you need is a little situational awareness to what is going on around you, the industry, and the worldwide economy. But if you think you are worth a 40% raise DOS, then go for it.

 

Says the guy who believes that all 88 717s have to be delivered before any additional 76 seaters can be added...

 

I keep reading 300 jobs lost, staffing reduced by 300, etc.

I guess I made the jump to 300 furloughs all on my own. For that I apologise to Bill, Sailing, and the rest of you.

 

So, you want DCI to die? Okay, but not every city can handle a mainline plane. Do you want mainline to fly every size RJ to fit all routes? If so, how do we compete against the current cheap regionals?

The "sale" for the hard cap removal was funded with better overall scope, not cash. That's what you aren't understanding here. There were other parts to this that made it a good deal. Fewer RJs total, sooner. Caps on large turboprops. 717s that can come sooner to fill the capacity void as larger RJs fill in for smaller ones leaving. Then the ratio that favors mainline by a lot more. The pay raise is good for a 3 year duration also, it beat the current 4 year contract that we are still under.

Some people think they deserve restoration, or know there must be something they can leverage. I just can't see it, even the RJ mx cost. There may be other "plans" out there that none of us know about. But I do know one thing, the TA isn't that bad at all.

 

No, you misunderstood me. I said they have to start getting 717s before they get the new RJs. Not all at once, just start the process. They actually have to come in blocks or stages. Not all at once. Many on here thought management could sneak the RJs in without 1 717 arriving. Wrong. Many on here thought the AirTran pilots were coming along. Wrong. Boomer stated this TA would result in 300 furloughs. Wrong.

Plenty of bad info and conspiracy theories out there. That's too bad.

 

The cap on large turboprops is huge. The company could easily go with a plan B that involves the Q400 and have the same leverage to dump the leases on the CRJ50's that a 900 purchase would entail. In fact it would not surprise me a bit if that is the companies plan B. It makes sense and the aircraft is so good it might just be better then plan A.

 

My point is, why guess? We take the deal - and we know what we get. We get the best deal our union could get us. And it's not a bad deal... at all. Look around. It's not hard to see that. They've weighed the outcomes of other plans and this is still the best one.

Do you honestly think our negotiators, MEC, vast support staff, subject matter experts, lawyers, consultants, and everyone else haven't thought of this? They have knowledge, resources, and skills that you and I do not have. Yes, I am a pilot, but I don't know everything about everything. The only reason to vote NO is if you are convinced there is some sort of corruption or fraud going on here, like we had with the Bill Brown admin in 1996. We've elected our reps to do a job. They've done it. With integrity from everything I can see.

 

Don't fool yourself. You didn't hurt my feelings at all. You're a hack nothing more. Just hoping you could express yourself without the demeaning posts against anyone who hasn't seen the "light"

I don't want 40% DOS, where did you get that drivel, the same place you get the rest of the crap you post? I want the company to be successful and recognize the pilots' worth. Concessionary contracts are signed when the company is losing money not making profits. You are so set on this paltry rase you can taste it and let's admit it, you spent the $$ already.

 

I could see that as well.