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Old 06-28-2012 | 11:50 AM
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I am interested in peoples predictions on the TA passing as well as what happens afterwords. If it passes how long before we hire and how many early retirements. If it doesn't pass how long before the next TA and what will the improvements be.


This TA will fail, I am a no vote. I predict we will see a new TA 12 months from now with mo scope improvements. We will get slightly better pay, 2 or 3 percent. A percent more in DC and maybe some slight work rule improvements.v scope will not be better.
Old 06-28-2012 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dorfman
I am interested in peoples predictions on the TA passing as well as what happens afterwords. If it passes how long before we hire and how many early retirements. If it doesn't pass how long before the next TA and what will the improvements be.


This TA will fail, I am a no vote. I predict we will see a new TA 12 months from now with mo scope improvements. We will get slightly better pay, 2 or 3 percent. A percent more in DC and maybe some slight work rule improvements.v scope will not be better.
My guess is it will be a lot sooner then 1 year if it gets voted down.
That being said, I'm thinking it may pass.

I don't think the TA will induce any early hiring since they are anticipating early outs with an increased reserve pilot utilization capability.
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If it passes I will anxiously be awaiting the fall hiring......
Old 06-28-2012 | 07:58 PM
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If it passes I will anxiously be awaiting the fall hiring......
Hope i'm as optimistic as you are, but if you've been reading between the lines from our mgmt team for the past few years, they really hopes to downsize us to barebone, as long as it doesn't hurt revenue to the point of losing Wall street support.

I am already beginning to feel the changes the last MOU regarding reserve utilization. And I am afraid this TA is gonna bring even more negative QOL impact to our rank and file, all for a whopping 2-5 extra hours of pay.
Old 06-28-2012 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rvr350
Hope i'm as optimistic as you are, but if you've been reading between the lines from our mgmt team for the past few years, they really hopes to downsize us to barebone, as long as it doesn't hurt revenue to the point of losing Wall street support.

I am already beginning to feel the changes the last MOU regarding reserve utilization. And I am afraid this TA is gonna bring even more negative QOL impact to our rank and file, all for a whopping 2-5 extra hours of pay.
Amen to that.

45 hours a month per reserve pilot I am sure ticks them off. If 60 is the PBS staffing formula, then "damnit, 60 hour average it shall be and we're not going to get there with the current system, we need ALV+15."
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Hi! Bid something so you aren't on reserve. If you can't, newhires could be on the way. 30 more MD90s and 88 717s could be arriving at a Delta hub near you soon!
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Hi! Bid something so you aren't on reserve. If you can't, newhires could be on the way. 30 more MD90s and 88 717s could be arriving at a Delta hub near you soon!
Can't quite figure out which one is the most fitting. This one:



or this one:

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The electric 9.
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If it passes I will anxiously be awaiting the fall hiring......
2900+ in 5 years or something? Is that about right?
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