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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1223611)

Denny, that's the basis of labor law, anyone operating outside of your scope contract is a Delta ALPA pilot by law. The corruption of the union is why it is not enforced. One of the most solid scope contracts in the business is JetBlue, since if they organize, not matter how fragmented the company is, they are all under the same CBA. This would be a very different career if the union actually did its job vs selling jobs for money.

You lost me on this one. I would say anyone operating within the scope of our contract would be a Delta Pilot and anyone operating outside the scope of our contract would not be a DP. Essentially isn't that what scope defines?

I disagree with the "corruption of the union" comment. Case in point the RJDC lawsuit. If it really was labor law then someone would have filed suit against the union, company and whomever else they could have. That hasn't been done. Why?

As far as Jet Blue is concerned, here I'll lob this grenade :), they may have all the small jet scope but haven't they "outsourced" all their big jet flying to Lufthansa via code share?

Denny

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1223612)

I'm sure, but if we add their 717s and B763 non-ER types to the fold that we'd be around 1.9 on the ratio. Anything less (considering this is a few years out) we'd be allowing, cough, cough... shrinkage?

http://guyism.com/wp-content/uploads...e-seinfeld.jpg

But notice a jump from 1.56 to 1.9 is not growth for PMDAL as we add PMHAL. DAL and HAL? That will be entertaining.

Anyways, what we reluctantly are forced to do is give up on growing back to where we were at the merger in 08 and at least secure the hull size if we merge with HAL. Put that number in writing or something outsourced gets parked.

If we merge with Alaska, shoot me. Sounds like that's just inviting the merge, shrink, rinse, repeat. It won't be good for anyone. But at least SEA will be a hub for you Denny? :o

Well, I do think the ratio would be adjusted up but still left with a little "slop" like it seems to be headed for in 2015.

It does seem like merge, shrink, rinse and repeat is the current mantra. I would love to see us grow internally.

And NO, I do not want to go thru another merger with Hawaiian, Alaska or anyone!!:mad: SEA would be a hub but even if it wasn't, I'd still live here and commute like I did for many years.

Denny