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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1222249)
I think you should also DEMAND full price for the house you bought in 2005 if selling it today! Demand it.
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1222249)
I think you should also DEMAND full price for the house you bought in 2005 if selling it today! Demand it.
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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1222221)
Stupid post.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 1222123)
I think mainline will grow, but I also think that the ratio limits on DCI won't be complied with.
I would submit that, if you don't think DALPA would then what is the point of having a contract? In my mind, the ratio is the key to the scope clause and if DALPA won't protect that, they won't protect anything in the contract so why have one!?! That's a pretty cynical attitude for one so young!:) Denny |
Originally Posted by qball
(Post 1222128)
Snapshot June 2012. 11998 mainline pilots/714 mainline aircraft (closest numbers I could find).
June 2015...both those numbers a lot bigger. Will open the time capsule then and hope it happens. I am skeptical and I probably won't ever have to worry about booking a jumpseat for my commute or bidding MSO layovers for fly fishing since the jumbo RJ's will be all over that. Hope I'm wrong. Thanks for the snapshot!! I think it will be interesting to dredge this thread up in say June of 2015 and see what actually happens. I will be the first one to say "You guys tried to convince me and I just couldn't see the light!:D" if our seniority list is not the same size/bigger than post merger. Denny |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 1222256)
Or hold onto it until the market improves.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1222278)
I will. Wll not sell until I can get it too.Nwilling to wait to get the right deal :D
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1222386)
Maybe you guys understood the premise, maybe you didn't. Most people wanted the pay raise, and waiting a couple years like you two wanted (Boomer from the outside), really isn't in the cards. It was a good deal for most of the pilot group, and the short duration will serve us well for the next opener. If something else comes up before then, maybe it will be improved even more. Adding to the contract with short duration contracts is the way to go. It will be very hard to get a 25% raise DOS for a leading contract in the future. (some may get close to that behind us thanks to us)
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1222318)
Well then the next question to you is "Do you think DALPA will grieve it and force the Company to comply?"
I would submit that, if you don't think DALPA would then what is the point of having a contract? In my mind, the ratio is the key to the scope clause and if DALPA won't protect that, they won't protect anything in the contract so why have one!?! That's a pretty cynical attitude for one so young!:) Denny |
Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1222386)
Maybe you guys understood the premise, maybe you didn't. Most people wanted the pay raise, and waiting a couple years like you two wanted (Boomer from the outside), really isn't in the cards. It was a good deal for most of the pilot group, and the short duration will serve us well for the next opener. If something else comes up before then, maybe it will be improved even more. Adding to the contract with short duration contracts is the way to go. It will be very hard to get a 25% raise DOS for a leading contract in the future. (some may get close to that behind us thanks to us)
I will agree the three year duration is one of the items I liked. |
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