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Originally Posted by jetliner1526
(Post 1309145)
What airline would jetBlue pilots prefer to merge with should that day arrive?
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VA, if not wrong the only ones not union.
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There is no benefit to JB pilots in merging with another small, young pilot group like VA, Spirit, etc. In an ideal world, we'd merge with a giant legacy with tons of retirements who would view us as a solution to the upcoming scarcity of pilots qualified to fill their seats. They'd keep us employed because we as a pilot group would be as much a selling point as the routes and terminals. We fly around with nearly a 90% load factor and opening a new route means shutting down an existing route due to lack of airframes. We're lean enough to survive a merger with a legacy, let's not screw it up by merging with an equal and all stagnating at the same seniority level for the next 20+ years.
That being said, I'm speaking of an absolutely ideal world. In a more realistic world, myself and other younger FOs get hired at a legacy and just put JB in our rear view mirror rather than taking the risk of wasting our young age on a sloowwwwwwly growing carrier with very little attrition. |
WN cannot dominate NYC without JFK where B6 and AA dominate along with the Caribbean. B6 entered/exited ATL while WN bought their way in. I believe this could be the next big merger. Equipment is different but that didn't stop them from bidding for F9, although I believe there was more behind that move than an actual desire to acquire F9.
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Originally Posted by Herkulesdrvr
(Post 1269087)
We need hundreds of guys to go through much pain, experience it and then spread the word. Then and only then will people realize that maybe this mumbo jumbo about being able to negotiate for yourself like a loner may not be the best thing for your career.
Like I said about healthcare costing thousands out of pocket, its not enough, it needs to be several thousand more dollars out of pocket so more people feel the pain. Family tree's are being changed as pilots look at the health costs of having another child, then shy away due to extreme costs. Nobody can afford to even have a baby, let alone an injury. JetBlue unified the pilot group by screwing us with terrible health care and a rediculously high max out of pocket expenses and deductible. They've crossed the line, and will get the union they deserve. Simple as that. |
Originally Posted by Ernst Kessler
(Post 1309433)
...... and will get the union they deserve.
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Originally Posted by AutoEverything
(Post 1309376)
There is no benefit to JB pilots in merging with another small, young pilot group like VA, Spirit, etc. In an ideal world, we'd merge with a giant legacy with tons of retirements who would view us as a solution to the upcoming scarcity of pilots qualified to fill their seats. They'd keep us employed because we as a pilot group would be as much a selling point as the routes and terminals. We fly around with nearly a 90% load factor and opening a new route means shutting down an existing route due to lack of airframes. We're lean enough to survive a merger with a legacy, let's not screw it up by merging with an equal and all stagnating at the same seniority level for the next 20+ years.
That being said, I'm speaking of an absolutely ideal world. In a more realistic world, myself and other younger FOs get hired at a legacy and just put JB in our rear view mirror rather than taking the risk of wasting our young age on a sloowwwwwwly growing carrier with very little attrition. Legacy carrier with lots of retirements would help mitigate any short term pain since a majority of us are younger than the average at places like AA/UA/DL. |
Originally Posted by Ernst Kessler
(Post 1309433)
You must be on a personal leave of absense right now. Everyone I know that voted NO to Alpa last year, will now vote YES to Alpa in the wake of the health care massive increases.
Family tree's are being changed as pilots look at the health costs of having another child, then shy away due to extreme costs. Nobody can afford to even have a baby, let alone an injury. JetBlue unified the pilot group by screwing us with terrible health care and a rediculously high max out of pocket expenses and deductible. They've crossed the line, and will get the union they deserve. Simple as that. I've not flown with one single pilot since the recent changes who will NOT support voting in a union now. |
Originally Posted by windrider
(Post 1309590)
I've not flown with one single pilot since the recent changes who will NOT support voting in a union now.
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Future of Jetblue?
I support an in house union. I will not vote yes for ALPA.
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