Originally Posted by Kellwolf

Here's the advantage of getting your insurance taken care of in a CBA: the company can't just arbitrarily change things year after year. As it stands now, people are running around talking about insurance premiums doubling next year, and it's entirely possible. With a CBA with insurance language, there are things they can and can't do. For example, where I am now, we're pretty much locked in what we have until we re-negotiate (or the court kills it in bankruptcy court). It actually worked to our advantage being under a CBA in negotiations for 7 years. We were still paying late 90s insurance rates because of the CBA until a new one was negotiated. Sad part is, I fly CRJ-200s, and our insurance is better than what jetBlue has.

Yes, insurance is bad across the country, but that's not an excuse to accept below par insurance compared to other carriers. If a REGIONAL can do it, then I'm sure the jetBlue pilots can come to an agreement that both protects them as well as profits for the company as a whole.

Originally Posted by hyperboy

It's funny how many of you talk so venomously to those that don't agree with a union yet hide behind your avatars?! I guess you will never be happy? JetBlue is a great place to work period. A union would not help this to be a great place. Plenty of examples out there in previous posts to prove this. Things continue to get better here and there is proof of that........

Originally Posted by aewanabe

Things continue to get better here and JetBlue is great, period? Wow; usually only a fool speaks in absolutes. I'm glad you use your wife's insurance so the disaster about to befall most of our families won't affect you. You've got yours, so screw the rest of us huh?

I don't attack most anti union guys, some are dear friends. Statements like yours are so willfully ignorant as to be infuriating, however. I also haven't seen you eschew an avatar for your real identity...

Originally Posted by hyperboy

It's funny how many of you talk so venomously to those that don't agree with a union yet hide behind your avatars?! I guess you will never be happy? JetBlue is a great place to work period. A union would not help this to be a great place. Plenty of examples out there in previous posts to prove this. Things continue to get better here and there is proof of that........

Originally Posted by hyperboy

Yea cause thats what I said? Not even close......Another venomous attack from a pro union guy? Should I expect anything less? Thanks

Originally Posted by amcflyboy

Having only been employed by JB just under a year and this being my first ever airline, I'd like to consider myself a transparent person. Even I can point out the JB management B.S. I deal with it all the time in my Guard Unit. I, too, am not crazy about unions, but I do think the mother of all BOHICA's is on the horizon (albeit merger with AMR), and if we don't act soon and vote in ALPA, we're toast! I agree with the lawyers our PVC hired to comprehend our PEA toilet paper...we would be screwed in an acquisition, and I'm not ready to be out on the street without a job...yet!

Originally Posted by aewanabe

Actually I directly quoted you. I guess having your own words repeated counts as a venomous attack?

For those in the pool or considering work at JetBlue, understand that 95 percent of us on both sides of the issue can play nice, have a beer together, and use Bluepilots or this forum to vent. The 5 percent can be a real doozy, though. Also please understand that the issues are very real, and verifiable as concrete facts. The more "hyper" among us tend to take our skepticism of the non-CBA environment personally, for reasons I don't understand…