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Old 07-29-2012 | 02:08 PM
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I knew the day would come when they would start to squeeze the pilots, but I really didn't imagine it would be while we're in the black. It scares me when I think about what might happen if we go back into the red...
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Old 07-30-2012 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
ALPA used to induce vomit, but then I realized that it was largely due to the carrier I worked for under ALPA. FedEx, DAL, UAL/CAL, Alaska, Hawaiian are all great places to be, but ALPA didnt make them great, it just ensures they will stay great through the course of a contract.

I dont expect ALPA to fix all the issues with JB. I just want a CBA to have some predictability for basics like annual COLA raises to keep up with inflation, and a legal way to enforce bidding/seniority/work rules. Stable insurance benefits and industry average retirement as well.
All great points and reasons for a CBA. I have still not achieved ALPA Zen. I'm trying.
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Old 07-31-2012 | 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
All great points and reasons for a CBA. I have still not achieved ALPA Zen. I'm trying.
Youll get there grasshopper At least you have an open mind
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Old 07-31-2012 | 03:54 AM
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We don't need you to reach ALPA zen. We need a yes vote to legal, resources, support and a say. Zen comes when you get involved and make Jetblue ALPA want you want it to be.

Until then we all continue to suffer.
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Old 07-31-2012 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
All great points and reasons for a CBA. I have still not achieved ALPA Zen. I'm trying.
Just remember, the only thing worse than having ALPA as your union is not having ALPA as your union. Not a glowing endorsement I know, think of it as buying into a franchise. Over 90% of all airline pilots are unionized, are we the smart ones or the dumb ones?
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Old 07-31-2012 | 06:45 AM
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The bottom line is I wish we didn't have to unionize. I hoped that JB management would just stick to the high road and not do these shady things that they have been doing lately. I also would love to see us start up JBPA and not have to invite the devil in.
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Old 08-01-2012 | 05:47 PM
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Old 08-01-2012 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Southerner
I believe that in a union, the whole group gets dragged down to the lowest common denominator
Really?????????

Who do you think is to blame for Jetblue Pilots being compensated below average in every category?


I'll give you a clue..............................It aint a union!


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Old 08-02-2012 | 05:06 AM
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Southerner is probably a Jetblue management lackey and if not I guarantee he will never work here.
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Old 08-02-2012 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by alvrb211
Really?????????

Who do you think is to blame for Jetblue Pilots being compensated below average in every category?


I'll give you a clue..............................It aint a union!


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I wasn't talking about compensation. Guys, I think we will have to respectfully agree to disagree on this issue.

Good luck in your union drive.
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