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Old 08-13-2012 | 07:05 AM
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Yawn.........
Too tired to pay attention, huh?
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Old 08-13-2012 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Yawn.........
Originally Posted by HUD Cripple
Too tired to pay attention, huh?
That's the response you give when you have no solid rebuttal.
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Old 08-13-2012 | 09:35 AM
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Can someone please clarify the 15k max annual benefit and where that info can be found? I was under the impression, under the new obamacare rules, that max benefit caps are no longer legal (annual or lifetime).
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Old 08-13-2012 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bluedriver
yawn.........
Originally Posted by hud cripple
too tired to pay attention, huh?
Originally Posted by johnso29
that's the response you give when you have no solid rebuttal.
exactly!!!
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Old 08-13-2012 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by moontimes
Can someone please clarify the 15k max annual benefit and where that info can be found? I was under the impression, under the new obamacare rules, that max benefit caps are no longer legal (annual or lifetime).
If you are referring to the disability maximum you do not have access to it. This information was part of what was discovered by a Jetblue pilot who obtained the information, legally, on his own. Rob Maruster has threatened to terminate said pilot.

The CATCAB committee has decided to reduce the 15K benefit to 10K in order to reduce cost and pay for more junior pilots rather than Jetblue paying any extra. The CATCAB committee is always hand selected by management.

Your DR hard at work.
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Old 08-14-2012 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Yawn.........

E190 pay means nothing to the majority of Jetblue Pilots.

They don't fly it!


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Old 08-14-2012 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Ernst Kessler
Oh, right! Just like AirTran (ALPA & Non Bankrupt) essentially received a staple job from SWA.

Yea.....keep on preaching brother!
Oh, you mean Airtran, the Airline that managed to negotiate $165/hr rates on the B717?

That's more than E190/A320 guys are paid. That's before you even talk about all the other relatively superior benefits AT negotiated.

By the way, if you think you are better off than ANY of the AT guys, you are a fool!


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Old 08-14-2012 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rake222
As if those things really are that dramatic when we explain to others that your feeling are basically hurt. You unhappy dudes need serious therapy. We've all suffered through major failures in our careers. JetBlue is far from the crappy place you guys continually paint it to be. You wanna cherry-pick cafeteria style the "above average" in the industry and are aghast that company would push back for the obvious reasons. What you deserve is a letter of rec to pursue a carrier is in line with your demands. Your singular focus will shank us all. I'm not saying I don't want it! I'm saying you guys don't have a true leg to stand on until hiring is a problem industry wide. JetBlue does good enough in it's benefits and improvements, and is committed to improvements until then (with obvious and crappy setbacks, yes it happens). And for these reasons ALPA supporters will remain the minority. Deal with it. The next ALPA drive will fail. And that's if ALPA BOD allows another black eye to their organization. Quit crying on PCG, FSM & PCRB and look at the bigger picture. And don't forget to tell everyone that the company has essentially handcuffed themselves from unilateral changes - which of course will falter at times I know you will POINT THAT OUT. But how has a CBA worked everywhere else on that point? DEAL with the reality of JetBlue being what it is and just TRY to be content. God knows some guys can't be happy otherwise.

Below average all across the board is "good enough" is it?

Let me ask you one question; Why do you think compensation is below average?

Committed to making improvements until when? They are making record profits. What are we waiting for?

BTW, Jetblue Pilots are compensated below the average of the carriers with CBAs. You asked how CBAs work. There it is!


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Old 08-14-2012 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by alvrb211
Below average all across the board is "good enough" is it?

Let me ask you one question; Why do you think compensation is below average?

Committed to making improvements until when? They are making record profits. What are we waiting for?

BTW, Jetblue Pilots are compensated below the average of the carriers with CBAs. You asked how CBAs work. There it is!


JJ
Most of the guys I know want a CBA they just dont want ALPA. I personally don't care for ALPA but I weight the CBA as more important then my distaste for ALPA. JBPA would be preferred by most of the guys I fly with. The thought of paying 2% of my salary to ALPA makes me want to throw up in my mouth.
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Old 08-14-2012 | 05:41 PM
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