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Old 08-17-2012 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
The repeating is so very boring......

What did ALPA do for USAIRWAYS/ AMERICA WEST?
What did ALPA do for TWA?
WHY ALPA they represent regionals and majors? COMAIR/DELTA......?

Conflict of interest and many carriers cannot foot the bill on their own airlines work so they need the big boys to help foot the bill. Fair? Debate it?

ALPA is really just a big lobbying group. Right?

USAIRWAYS have a CBA. They have many benefits and protections Jetblue Pilots don't have.


You don't see USAIR guys seeking a Jetblue type Direct Relationship in place of their UNION do you?


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Old 08-17-2012 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by alvrb211
usairways have a cba. They have many benefits and protections jetblue pilots don't have.


you don't see usair guys seeking a jetblue type direct relationship in place of their union do you?


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Old 08-18-2012 | 04:43 AM
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Those Delta guys that dont like DALPA... They're shooting for the Direct Relationship now though aren't they? I mean, we probably havn't seen this alot in the industry but good on them.
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Old 08-18-2012 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
Those Delta guys that dont like DALPA... They're shooting for the Direct Relationship now though aren't they? I mean, we probably havn't seen this alot in the industry but good on them.
In house union is not a DR. Delta is shooting to ditch ALPA in favor of an in house union.
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Old 08-18-2012 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate

In the last conference call Maruster stated Jetblue is planning of going after the 1000 pilots who filed the 3A claim against Jetblue if Jetblue wins.
I'm pretty sure if a major union was in place the company wouldn't think of using this kind of rhetoric. They broke the contract and are really thinking of taking it out on those pilots? Appalling.
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Old 08-18-2012 | 06:36 AM
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In the last conference call Maruster stated Jetblue is planning of going after the 1000 pilots who filed the 3A claim against Jetblue if Jetblue wins.

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This is a misquote and go read the transcripts this was never said! I listened and read the call. Quit telling lies please.
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Old 08-18-2012 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
Those Delta guys that dont like DALPA... They're shooting for the Direct Relationship now though aren't they? I mean, we probably havn't seen this alot in the industry but good on them.
If Jetblue had 12000 pilots they wouldn't need ALPA either. With a pilot group that size, that much money, they can go at it alone. An in house at JetBlue is a glamorized PVC. No money, resources.
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Old 08-18-2012 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
In the last conference call Maruster stated Jetblue is planning of going after the 1000 pilots who filed the 3A claim against Jetblue if Jetblue wins.

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This is a misquote and go read the transcripts this was never said! I listened and read the call. Quit telling lies please.
There is no misquote and I can't help your reading comprehension skills.

Jetblue fully intends to go after the pilot group.

"you can expect the Company to do what it needs to do to not only defend itself in this matter but also to get that money back if indeed discovery and other things point to a more favorable outcome for the company."
RM's next comment deflects the original question from the caller.
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Old 08-18-2012 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy

There is no misquote and I can't help your reading comprehension skills.

Jetblue fully intends to go after the pilot group.

"you can expect the Company to do what it needs to do to not only defend itself in this matter but also to get that money back if indeed discovery and other things point to a more favorable outcome for the company."
RM's next comment deflects the original question from the caller.
looks pretty clear cut to me Benz, thanks for getting it out there. Although what could they really do to all those guys? Strength in numbers, oops, sorry no union so I shouldn't be saying that. Maybe strength in individualism? No that doesn't sound right either.
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Old 08-18-2012 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
The repeating is so very boring......

What did ALPA do for USAIRWAYS/ AMERICA WEST?
What did ALPA do for TWA?
WHY ALPA they represent regionals and majors? COMAIR/DELTA......?

Conflict of interest and many carriers cannot foot the bill on their own airlines work so they need the big boys to help foot the bill. Fair? Debate it?

ALPA is really just a big lobbying group. Right?
I think Benzoate pretty much covered it.
- USAIR dug their own hole, not ALPA. That is indisputable.
- TWA - bad deal. No arguement there.
- Yes, regionals should have their own union representation to avoid conflict of interest. Go ahead and get that started.
- USAir/USAPA, Delta/DPA, etc. - NONE OF THEM ARE LOOKING TO DITCH THE CBA. Would you want to be without one?
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