Lets bring back Age 60

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08-01-2012 | 07:11 PM

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You've got to be kidding me. Did you really pull that one out?

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08-01-2012 | 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by windrider

so typical of pilots...screw others to benefit yourself

Like those who advocated for 65, and those who are trying for 67?

08-01-2012 | 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Used2BeFlyer

Let's do away with the mandatory retirement age altogether. Let the pilot decide when he/she wants to retire - as long as they can maintain a Class 1 medical, of course.

I hit 65 in June this year, but I've been retired for 6 years - because I had a pension that allowed me to retire and because I wanted to retire - not because some junior wannabe said that I should.

But you had no gain from those above you who were forced to retire, right? Those average earnings that padded your pension allowing you to retire weren't at all assisted by those required retirements?

08-01-2012 | 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NuGuy

Heck, you don't need to bring back age 60.

Just make the FAA medical the same as the EASA medical, and given by government doctors like they do in Euroland, and there'd be more progression than you could shake a stick at.

Nu

I agree with you 100%, however, I believe what you'd find is that a large percentage of guys who could not pass a real FAA medical would be well below Age 60. All you have to do is take a look around your crew room to see all the overweight, hypertensioned, near diabetes-diagnosed guys walking around. Is that what you're after? Because that is what would certainly happen. As well, you need to know your individual contract, because if you have a long-term disability clause in it, those same guys who flunked out on their physical, would just go on LTD and continue to collect a paycheck, which could put an undo strain on your company's financial situation. And all because you feel that you're owed something from the more senior/older guys. Interesting.

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08-01-2012 | 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lolwut

There are a lot more of us who want them gone than those who want to stay. I'd guess a 10-to-1 ratio. We have the voting power. Lets make this happen. Any one have an idea of where to start?

Democracy - 2 wolves and a sheep voting on lunch. Good thing we live in a Republic. May the tables not be turned on you one day.

Look - I possibly lost my shot at the majors due to this rule and my age, but I don't advocate using numbers to force someone out to benefit myself. These guys/gals have mortgages, kids in college, multiple ex's, lost pensions and lower salaries. They are doing what they need to do, and you should do the same.

To answer your question, contact your Congressman/woman and ask them to start the process of changing it.

08-01-2012 | 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by windrider

so typical of pilots...screw others to benefit yourself

Much like when it was changed from 60 to 65...

08-01-2012 | 08:39 PM

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I want it dropped to age 40.

When I hit 39, I want it to 45.

When I hit 44, I want it to 50.

And so on.

08-02-2012 | 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by shiznit

Additionally it would be taken to court on the basis of age discrimination.... Which happens to be illegal in the U.S.

I would argue that the age 65 rule is age discrimination. If a pilot can hold a first class medical certificate, they should be able to stay employed at a commercial airline.

08-02-2012 | 03:36 AM

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Does the OP just think that the Age 65 ruling was the result of some kind of popular vote amongst pilots?

That's an interesting theory.

08-02-2012 | 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by iahflyr

I would argue that the age 65 rule is age discrimination. If a pilot can hold a first class medical certificate, they should be able to stay employed at a commercial airline.

Sure you would. Now that you've benefited from mandatory retirements you'd have no problem with that.