Age 67
#31
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We need quality replacements coming up, not declining pilots gumming up progress. Delaying the inevitable does not improve the situation.
Meanwhile, declining motor skills, and poor decision-making driven by excessive fear are becoming more and more obvious in some of the post-60 guys. Some not all, but they prove that experience eventually can't match the ravages of age.
Of course, some can fly longer, and everyone has a different threshold for becoming a liability, but the individuals in question don't always know when to quit.
Meanwhile, declining motor skills, and poor decision-making driven by excessive fear are becoming more and more obvious in some of the post-60 guys. Some not all, but they prove that experience eventually can't match the ravages of age.
Of course, some can fly longer, and everyone has a different threshold for becoming a liability, but the individuals in question don't always know when to quit.
#32
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We need quality replacements coming up, not declining pilots gumming up progress. Delaying the inevitable does not improve the situation.
Meanwhile, declining motor skills, and poor decision-making driven by excessive fear are becoming more and more obvious in some of the post-60 guys. Some not all, but they prove that experience eventually can't match the ravages of age.
Of course, some can fly longer, and everyone has a different threshold for becoming a liability, but the individuals in question don't always know when to quit.
Meanwhile, declining motor skills, and poor decision-making driven by excessive fear are becoming more and more obvious in some of the post-60 guys. Some not all, but they prove that experience eventually can't match the ravages of age.
Of course, some can fly longer, and everyone has a different threshold for becoming a liability, but the individuals in question don't always know when to quit.
#33
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Perhaps the honorable thing would be to level out at 65 for a while, and have some data on pilots flying from 60-65, and see the airlines start replacing retirements. Then we can have a fact-based debate on what needs a second look and whether we're better off keeping 65 + guys around to kick the can down the road two more years.
Anything before that point looks like a self-serving and slightly pathetic seat grab. Seat clutch, actually.
Anything before that point looks like a self-serving and slightly pathetic seat grab. Seat clutch, actually.
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Perhaps the honorable thing would be to level out at 65 for a while, and have some data on pilots flying from 60-65, and see the airlines start replacing retirements. Then we can have a fact-based debate on what needs a second look and whether we're better off keeping 65 + guys around to kick the can down the road two more years.
Anything before that point looks like a self-serving and slightly pathetic seat grab. Seat clutch, actually.
Anything before that point looks like a self-serving and slightly pathetic seat grab. Seat clutch, actually.
#36
We need quality replacements coming up, not declining pilots gumming up progress. Delaying the inevitable does not improve the situation.
Meanwhile, declining motor skills, and poor decision-making driven by excessive fear are becoming more and more obvious in some of the post-60 guys. Some not all, but they prove that experience eventually can't match the ravages of age.
Of course, some can fly longer, and everyone has a different threshold for becoming a liability, but the individuals in question don't always know when to quit.
Meanwhile, declining motor skills, and poor decision-making driven by excessive fear are becoming more and more obvious in some of the post-60 guys. Some not all, but they prove that experience eventually can't match the ravages of age.
Of course, some can fly longer, and everyone has a different threshold for becoming a liability, but the individuals in question don't always know when to quit.
#37
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Don't know if I agree with this post. The only true sub par performances ( and failures) I have observed in the last few years have all been performed by pilots less than 60. Doesn't mean the over 60 guys are better, it's just what I have observed over a limited data base as are your observations about declining motor skills etc etc.
If so, I can confidently state that I have amazing declining motor skills.
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You aren't seeing the trees thru the woods, you must be very young. It won't matter in 5 - 10 years. I am selfish because I don't want it changed now, it will cause stagnation if done in the near future. Once you have that legacy/major job you will want it as well. Not to mention there is going to be a major experience gap 10 years from now that will be when it will be more important to keep the experience in the cockpit.
Justdoinmyjob IS a Legacy pilot. He doesn't want age 67. I am a Legacy pilot too. I didn't want age 65. I sure don't want 67.
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