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FWIW.....The following was lifted right off the Ameriflight APC Profile:
JUMPSEAT: Ameriflight currently has a reciprocal agreement only with Southwest. CASS participant. |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't need a reciprocal jumpseat agreement to allow someone on your flight deck.... that recip agreement is a UNION thing. And ***** the union. Check your own FOM/GOM, but if it allows a pilot in the flight deck jumpseat with CASS approval and PIC approval, then welcome aboard!
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Originally Posted by Yazzoo
(Post 1249034)
Correct, we recip with Southwest only, but I've talked to pilots who've jumped on Delta, Airways, American and Jetblue...so it's possible, does it just depend on the captain's mood and if there's anyone else waiting to take the seat that you have an agreement with? :confused:
And never, EVER, try and jumpseat offline (even with a recip agreement) when you should be positive space on a company purchased ticket but you'r trying to save your company money. Pilots that do that should be banned for life. |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1249223)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't need a reciprocal jumpseat agreement to allow someone on your flight deck.... that recip agreement is a UNION thing. And ***** the union. Check your own FOM/GOM, but if it allows a pilot in the flight deck jumpseat with CASS approval and PIC approval, then welcome aboard!
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1249223)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't need a reciprocal jumpseat agreement to allow someone on your flight deck.... that recip agreement is a UNION thing. And ***** the union. Check your own FOM/GOM, but if it allows a pilot in the flight deck jumpseat with CASS approval and PIC approval, then welcome aboard!
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Yikes...didn't realize I'd stir up the hive with this one. I wasn't going to jumpseat just for "sport," I have legitimate purposes, but it seems like staying clear of the drama and sticking to WN would be the way to go. If only they flew out of my home airport :(
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Originally Posted by Yazzoo
(Post 1249298)
Yikes...didn't realize I'd stir up the hive with this one. I wasn't going to jumpseat just for "sport," I have legitimate purposes, but it seems like staying clear of the drama and sticking to WN would be the way to go. If only they flew out of my home airport :(
On that note, check your FOM and see what is legal. Don't bring other pilots into this mess if SHTF... |
Most at Allegiant will let you on if there's a seat in the back.
It's not illegal to take you without a reciprocal agreement. |
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 1249132)
If you don't have an agreement, don't try it. If you get caught, it is a lot more serious than you think. Best case scenario and the most likely, the agent turns you away without pressing the issue. When the agent can't pull up your airline code, it's a red flag. The absolute worse case scenario is you get on the flight, then someone finds out you should not be on the plane. You can be arrested for trespassing and a security breach at that point.
Your above post is admitting that pilots from your company have stolen seats. If you want jumpseat privileges, work for a company that has jumpseat privileges. Just because you are a pilot does not entitle you to catch free rides on whoever you feel like. For those of you that don't know, Ameriflight is a 135 outfit. "entitle" one to a ride......everything you said is wrong. Ameriflight is in CASS and can legally jumpseat. If a carrier lets you ride (reciprocal agreement or not), you're not trespassing and there is no security breach. |
PM me Am Flights 2 letter CASS code and your employee number and I'll check for you.
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