Not most; actually, trending toward less than half. With Comair and Mesaba gone and Pinnacle on the ropes, the only ALPA carriers in DCI are potentially Expressjet and Compass.

Not ALPA in DCI = Shuttle, GoJetsss, Skywest, Chautauqua.

 

No, I'm certain some will go. But I highly doubt they'll "burn it down". As pilots we are generally all talk. Not to mention AMR management and the creditors would likely merge with LCC before they allow the pilots to do something so drastic. Some will likely go to expat jobs, but I don't think it will be a huge number. It's just too drastic of a change. Those that are forced out(furloughed) may do it. Those that are in their last 10-15 years may as well. If Delta shut down tomorrow, I probably wouldn't go overseas to an expat job. It's really not right for my family.

The problem with using furloughed RJ guys is that many of the expat places require them to be current, so if these guys aren't pro-active they'll miss their chance. Plus, don't many require a type or PIC in type? How many RJ guys have a type a NB or WB aircraft? Heck, a lot will miss out on the RJ type they're getting as a result of the new FTDT regs.

I guess we will agree to disagree.

 

Well if they Fly as they Drive, were screwed

 

I'll believe it when I see it......

 

We think cabotage (correct spelling) is a bad word. The economist and political lobby groups in DC call it "Globalization". It is only a matter of time before Emirates, Qatar, Etihad open a US pilot domicile. If you think for a second pilots won't run to those jobs you are sadly mistaken. I am not saying I agree with it, I am just saying this is the reality of the "Globlization" of the airline industry in a world economy that is now flat. Yes, Thomas Freidman is pretty far left, but the folks in Washington love his economic theory. Why do you think the President of Emirates refused to sign up with an alliance? I think he was even quoted as saying an alliance would have prevented Emirates direct flights into the US.

Cabotage or a better word Globalization in this industry will happen, unless folks put some big political pressure on DC, just not confident we will stop it, I would hope for the best, but expect the worst out of our political leaders.

 

Agreed. Myself as an example, Emirates is the most attractive job out there. Maybe Delta looks good now, but will it in 10-15 years? Will USAirways look as bad? At least overseas, if I am going to work hard all the time, I will get paid.

 

Seb D. and Clear Right, exactly what I'm talking about. Delta 'might look good today...' but guess what? Delta's overstaffed today, not looking to hire. Emirates on the other hand, is hiring, and has been for quite a while, and will continue for many years as their big airplanes are delivered.

Johnso29 doesn't see it, but if he's sitting 757 domestic reserve, I can understand why not. He doesn't get out enough to see it.

I go to China or Dubai every week, and I've seen it. The Churn is coming, get ready.

Oh, and Johnso, last time in Dubai I met a kid from ATL who was former ASA, now flying a 737 for Sky Dubai. He said he LOVES IT, and has zero plans to come back to the USA for a flying job anytime soon.

 

I'm also very satisfied with my current job abroad as are many of my colleagues, but that doesn't mean it is a viable option for everyone, I see very different levels of satisfaction with the move to the expat market, you need to have the right combination of personality, family support, adaptability and most importantly, a realistic expectation of how it will be.

 

Does he have a wife? Children? Does he have sick kids? A parent who needs 24 hr care? Or is he living the bachelor life? If I was a single man stuck in the right seat of an RJ, I'd be all over it. It won't work for everyone. Like I said, agree to disagree.

It's easy for you to toss fear grenades as you're near the end of your career.

 

I agree. I never said it's a terrible job. It can work, but not for everyone.