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Old 10-26-2012 | 06:32 PM
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heard today in the van from a SWA FO that he hear directly from the dir of training that SWA wants to add the 777 to the fleet.
Not a smart move I should think. Sooner or later, they will have to buy jet fuel from Delta Air Lines.
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Old 10-26-2012 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by atr42flyer
heard today in the van from a SWA FO that he hear directly from the dir of training that SWA wants to add the 777 to the fleet.
As long as it's the 777 option without auto-throttles, auto-brakes, auto-land and ACARS.
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Old 10-26-2012 | 08:21 PM
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I kinda hope they ramp it up even more. Ready to put these massive orders behind us and see who can actually fill all those seats. Might be a few cheap 777's on the market in a couple years.
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Old 10-26-2012 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by atr42flyer
heard today in the van from a SWA FO that he hear directly from the dir of training that SWA wants to add the 777 to the fleet.
Man, that would be the ugliest 777 ever.
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Old 10-26-2012 | 10:10 PM
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What stock(s) though? Boeing is "soaring" off the ponzi scheme fantasy order books of the "Heros of Farnborough" press release addicts. They are connected enough to keep the lobbing pressure up so the US subsidizes every one of those AC at insane levels, while Airbus does the same, so no one benefits other than foreign carriers. They know they have no place to put that fantasy growth unless they start to get huge wins on cabotage foreign ownership.

Boeing is on the sugar rush high right now that will depend on the gutting of US aviation jobs just like US maritime jobs in order for that one politically embedded company to continue thriving at that level. There is little doubt they are also lobbying hard that we can't ever cut military spending (or even freeze it) or else we are all doomed, our babies won't be safe, Hitler will rise again or whatever other nonsense sells on any given day.

Its great to root for the home team, but rest assured that home team is doing everything they can to root and bet against you at every turn.


Clearly you don't get out of the States much.

This weekend is Eid in the Muslim world. There are 2000 seat per day on Emirates from Doha to Dubai. They were all full. Early this month when I wanted to go to Hong Kong on days off all the flights were full, couldn't get there on Emirates with 1000 seats per day. Dubai-Bangkok has 1700 seats a day with 4 flights, they are full every day of the year.

There are 6 billion people within a 9 hour flying radius of the Middle East. It's the perfect hub point to take people from Africa to Asia; Europe to Asia; Europe to Africa; South America to Asia; etc.

The people in many of these countries are just now reaching an income level that allows them the luxury of air travel and foreign vacations. In the 80s basically nobody left China to go on vacation nor did many people go there on business, now it's a huge market.

Sorry but North America, with just over 300 million people, is a small market by comparison. Your paranoia is unfounded



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Old 10-27-2012 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot
Clearly you don't get out of the States much.

This weekend is Eid in the Muslim world. There are 2000 seat per day on Emirates from Doha to Dubai. They were all full. Early this month when I wanted to go to Hong Kong on days off all the flights were full, couldn't get there on Emirates with 1000 seats per day. Dubai-Bangkok has 1700 seats a day with 4 flights, they are full every day of the year.

There are 6 billion people within a 9 hour flying radius of the Middle East. It's the perfect hub point to take people from Africa to Asia; Europe to Asia; Europe to Africa; South America to Asia; etc.

The people in many of these countries are just now reaching an income level that allows them the luxury of air travel and foreign vacations. In the 80s basically nobody left China to go on vacation nor did many people go there on business, now it's a huge market.

Sorry but North America, with just over 300 million people, is a small market by comparison. Your paranoia is unfounded



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Yeah, billions and billions all joining the middle class by fiat. I get it. Maybe there can be hourly service to all those phony ghost cities in China too while we're at it. There is no room for the thousands of growth widebodies they have on order in the long run, but in the meantime, despite their fake little overpopulation gold mine they think they are sitting on, watch how desperately they lobby for cabotage in the so called small soon to be insignificant by comparison piddly little US market.
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Old 10-27-2012 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot
Clearly you don't get out of the States much.

This weekend is Eid in the Muslim world. There are 2000 seat per day on Emirates from Doha to Dubai. They were all full. Early this month when I wanted to go to Hong Kong on days off all the flights were full, couldn't get there on Emirates with 1000 seats per day. Dubai-Bangkok has 1700 seats a day with 4 flights, they are full every day of the year.

There are 6 billion people within a 9 hour flying radius of the Middle East. It's the perfect hub point to take people from Africa to Asia; Europe to Asia; Europe to Africa; South America to Asia; etc.

The people in many of these countries are just now reaching an income level that allows them the luxury of air travel and foreign vacations. In the 80s basically nobody left China to go on vacation nor did many people go there on business, now it's a huge market.

Sorry but North America, with just over 300 million people, is a small market by comparison. Your paranoia is unfounded



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Why would you do that? Yuk

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Old 10-27-2012 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
Why would you do that? Yuk

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To each its own, I find it more wow than yuk

despite their fake little overpopulation gold mine they think they are sitting on, watch how desperately they lobby for cabotage in the so called small soon to be insignificant by comparison piddly little US market.
Yeah, there is only one world market, the reason why they are selling so many A/C in Asia and the ME is just to take over the only airspace where there is growth. Wait, is there any growth
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Old 10-27-2012 | 04:41 PM
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To each its own, I find it more wow than yuk



Yeah, there is only one world market, the reason why they are selling so many A/C in Asia and the ME is just to take over the only airspace where there is growth. Wait, is there any growth
There's fake growth based on money printed GDP in Asia and trillions of wealth transferred in very short order by the US with our failed energy and monetary policies. But rest assured its not real. When the bubble pops the Heros of Farnsborough will be in far worse pain than the US will.
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Old 10-27-2012 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
There's fake growth based on money printed GDP in Asia and trillions of wealth transferred in very short order by the US with our failed energy and monetary policies. But rest assured its not real. When the bubble pops the Heros of Farnsborough will be in far worse pain than the US will.
Yeah, I'm just imagining all my passengers and freight every day stick with flying dude, world economics is just not your thing
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