Important Take Action-US Customs in Abu Dhabi
12-10-2012 | 02:08 PM
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From: right for a long, long time
Can you point out this "nonsense"?
non·sense noun \ˈnän-ˌsen(t)s, ˈnän(t)-sən(t)s\
a : words or language having no meaning or conveying no intelligible ideas
b (1) : language, conduct, or an idea that is absurd or contrary to good sense (2) : an instance of absurd action
2
a : things of no importance or value : trifles
b : affected or impudent conduct <took no nonsense from subordinates>
This is a clear and coherent threat to US airline jobs and security. Hate ALPA if your really feel the need, but don't mistake the need to be aware of how Washington works and how we need to be pro-active instead of re-active.
non·sense noun \ˈnän-ˌsen(t)s, ˈnän(t)-sən(t)s\
a : words or language having no meaning or conveying no intelligible ideas
b (1) : language, conduct, or an idea that is absurd or contrary to good sense (2) : an instance of absurd action
2
a : things of no importance or value : trifles
b : affected or impudent conduct <took no nonsense from subordinates>
This is a clear and coherent threat to US airline jobs and security. Hate ALPA if your really feel the need, but don't mistake the need to be aware of how Washington works and how we need to be pro-active instead of re-active.
12-10-2012 | 03:22 PM
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Not my intention.
Look, ALPA has its merits and its flaws. It has helped shape this incredible safety culture in which we operate and benefit from, and has also help make the US a world reference for all things aviation.
On this issue however I choose option 2a
"things of no importance or value : trifles"
Look, ALPA has its merits and its flaws. It has helped shape this incredible safety culture in which we operate and benefit from, and has also help make the US a world reference for all things aviation.
On this issue however I choose option 2a
"things of no importance or value : trifles"
Last edited by howard500; 12-10-2012 at 03:34 PM.
12-10-2012 | 03:31 PM
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Regarding the disparity between US and foreign carriers: Don't buy management's Bull Sh*t. The difference has very little to do with employee costs. I make about 100k USD as a 777 F/O. But EK pays for my house and utilities, private schools for the kids, medical for me and all the family etc. If you parrot the management line that we're successful due to lower costs, guess what their comeback will be?
It's also a copout to blame subsidies. We're not subsidised. Our fuel isn't free. There's no zero interest loan. We're a good carrier that takes advantage of geography. Force US airline management to do what they're paid for- manage. Increase employee morale, invest in people and product. Hot hosties are good for about 30 seconds- then you realise you won't be scoring with her, oh and you're married- after that it's attitude and product. That's where the foreign carriers kill you. Along those lines, I know the breadsticks and cognac was fairly 'toolish' and certainly deserved a nomination (which I think it received) the gist of the complaint is spot on. Go try and book a full-fare First or Business Class ticket from JFK to HKG for example. How much? I think the technical term for the amount of $$ is a sh**load. If that guy wants cognac and breadsticks, you should have it. Fly Emirates First or Business and we have a couple of litres of 20 year old Cognac and your meal will come with warm bread. Product matters.
Lazy management crying boohoo and blaming everything but their crap performance, that's the problem.
Oh by the way, the problem isn't a quick trip through customs in Abu Dhabi either.......
It's also a copout to blame subsidies. We're not subsidised. Our fuel isn't free. There's no zero interest loan. We're a good carrier that takes advantage of geography. Force US airline management to do what they're paid for- manage. Increase employee morale, invest in people and product. Hot hosties are good for about 30 seconds- then you realise you won't be scoring with her, oh and you're married- after that it's attitude and product. That's where the foreign carriers kill you. Along those lines, I know the breadsticks and cognac was fairly 'toolish' and certainly deserved a nomination (which I think it received) the gist of the complaint is spot on. Go try and book a full-fare First or Business Class ticket from JFK to HKG for example. How much? I think the technical term for the amount of $$ is a sh**load. If that guy wants cognac and breadsticks, you should have it. Fly Emirates First or Business and we have a couple of litres of 20 year old Cognac and your meal will come with warm bread. Product matters.
Lazy management crying boohoo and blaming everything but their crap performance, that's the problem.
Oh by the way, the problem isn't a quick trip through customs in Abu Dhabi either.......
12-10-2012 | 03:33 PM
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From: Urban chicken rancher.
Not my intention.
Look, ALPA has its merits and its flaws. It has helped shape this incredible safety culture in which we operate and benefit from, and has also helped make the US a world reference for all things aviation.
On this issue however I choose option 2a
"things of no importance or value : trifles"
Look, ALPA has its merits and its flaws. It has helped shape this incredible safety culture in which we operate and benefit from, and has also helped make the US a world reference for all things aviation.
On this issue however I choose option 2a
"things of no importance or value : trifles"
If you happen to fly for Etihad, I get it.
Last edited by buzzpat; 12-10-2012 at 04:01 PM.
12-10-2012 | 03:43 PM
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Delta just ranked higher when it comes to international business class. They were #9 over all and I believe EK came in around #14. I have flown EK Business a couple times and it was nice but nothing to write home about. As far as scoring an EK FA, it isn't out of reach. Maybe you need better game
Getting better though, #62 in 2011
12-10-2012 | 03:50 PM
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I don't get it, how is this a threat to US airline jobs? Especially if no US airlines fly there.
12-10-2012 | 04:42 PM
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I fully support U.S. CBP pre-clearance in Abu Dhabi. I hope they put it in Dubai too.
E-mails of support sent.
To ALPA, how about actually doing something to revive this profession in the US? Something like.... repealing RLA or its applicability to US airline employee groups, or say... realizing that by having huge disparities in pay scales greatly cheapens the worth of a pilot.
ALPA is an irrelevant dinosaur that just needs to go away.
E-mails of support sent.
To ALPA, how about actually doing something to revive this profession in the US? Something like.... repealing RLA or its applicability to US airline employee groups, or say... realizing that by having huge disparities in pay scales greatly cheapens the worth of a pilot.
ALPA is an irrelevant dinosaur that just needs to go away.
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