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Rolf 11-01-2013 09:48 AM
T,
I think he said it was being negotiated? We aren't ALPA of course, so I'm not holding out much hope ��

Purple Drank 11-01-2013 12:20 PM
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1510992)
Can any of the SWA pilots shed any light on the cost of insurance and benefits?

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Why is that relevant? "Our" "union" is under the impression that SWA is not one of our "peers", and that we should not expect to be compensated at their level. :cool:

Jughead 11-01-2013 12:52 PM
Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1511620)
Why is that relevant? "Our" "union" is under the impression that SWA is not one of our "peers", and that we should not expect to be compensated at their level. :cool:
Are you like this in real life, or is this just your forum persona? Seriously. The majority of your posts are a bummer. You seem very angry. Maybe you're a great guy, and you just like to flamebait to start a conversation or argue for the sake of arguing.

You get paid a pretty good salary to fly well-maintained airplanes to a nice hotel to drink beer. I don't get it. Have a nice weekend and try to enjoy life.

Smokey23 11-01-2013 02:40 PM
Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1511424)
Just talked with a bud at SWA and asked him about the compensation. He is just short of holding CAPT and he said something like - If you work really hard you can make the big bucks. The guys maxing out the $$$ are not the same guys getting 18 days off a month.

Scoop
When your friend says "big bucks" he means a lot more than the $230K/$140K mentioned. I average 17 days off a month and last year's W2 was just over $230K. I represent the "average to lazy" end of the SWA pilot compensation spectrum (I'm a commuter).

Smokey23 11-01-2013 02:42 PM
Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1511410)
Really? You'd rather have a 401k match than a 401k contribution?

Thanks, but no. I'll pass on that one.
Honestly T, when the subject of SWA comes up, do you even RTFP anymore before letting the contempt come spilling out? :confused:

CVG767A 11-01-2013 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 1511633)
Are you like this in real life, or is this just your forum persona? Seriously. The majority of your posts are a bummer. You seem very angry. Maybe you're a great guy, and you just like to flamebait to start a conversation or argue for the sake of arguing.

You get paid a pretty good salary to fly well-maintained airplanes to a nice hotel to drink beer. I don't get it. Have a nice weekend and try to enjoy life.
+1! He!!, +717!

Smokey23 11-01-2013 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 1511633)
You get paid a pretty good salary to fly well-maintained airplanes to a nice hotel to drink beer. I don't get it. Have a nice weekend and try to enjoy life.
I'm no fan of PD, but....

....you also assume a staggering liability for harm to passengers, property, and that well-maintained airplane every time you push back from the gate. A liability that you, PD, and me (a SWA pilot) are all at present woe-fully under-compensated for. Please do not begrudge anyone for not being satisfied with status quo while trying to make this a better profession. Maybe it's a great military retirement gig for you, but to many of us it is still a career.

Purple Drank 11-01-2013 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by Smokey23 (Post 1511681)
I'm no fan of PD, but....

....you also assume a staggering liability for harm to passengers, property, and that well-maintained airplane every time you push back from the gate. A liability that you, PD, and me (a SWA pilot) are all at present woe-fully under-compensated for. Please do not begrudge anyone for not being satisfied with status quo while trying to make this a better profession. Maybe it's a great military retirement gig for you, but to many of us it is still a career.
Well said, good points all.

Purple Drank 11-01-2013 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 1511633)

You get paid a pretty good salary to fly well-maintained airplanes to a nice hotel to drink beer. I don't get it. Have a nice weekend and try to enjoy life.
My man, I'm not here to go to "a nice hotel and to drink beer." I'm here to maximize my compensation and attain a more rational value for my talents and expertise in this, a very fickle and fragile career.

I'm here for--and I'm utterly convinced we can achieve-- "more money and more time with my family."

"Pretty good" is not good enough, and although I immensely enjoy craft IPAs and small-batch bourbon, I am most certainly not here for "nice hotels and beer," neither of which pay for my kid's braces or fund my retirement account.

tsquare 11-01-2013 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by Smokey23 (Post 1511671)
Honestly T, when the subject of SWA comes up, do you even RTFP anymore before letting the contempt come spilling out? :confused:
Yeah my bad... I apologize. I thought you were DAL and saying that OUR retirement sux...


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