Non Union Jumpseaters
11-20-2006 | 05:21 AM
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Non Union Jumpseaters
Would any of you deny a jumpseater because he worked in a non union flying job. Not talking in the case of a Go-jetter (union buster) but specifically for instance a cargo guy with CASS privilages that happens to work for a company that doesnt have a union? Just curious
11-20-2006 | 05:30 AM
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If the company has a reciprocal jumpseat agreement (aka are on our approved jumpseat list), I would take them along... (although now that I don't work for the airlines, it's a moot point.)
11-20-2006 | 07:09 AM
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Would any of you deny a jumpseater because he worked in a non union flying job. Not talking in the case of a Go-jetter (union buster) but specifically for instance a cargo guy with CASS privilages that happens to work for a company that doesnt have a union? Just curious
Also you are not supposed to deny a jumpseat based on competetive business situations, ie aloha should take Go! jumpseaters and vice versa. The business conflict in question there does not directly involve the pilots...but gojets is a different story.
11-20-2006 | 07:20 AM
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When I did work for a union airline, union status was never a factor in jumpseating. On the off chance that you were going to deny a jumpseat it would because of the individual's own behavior (scab, alter-ego, obnoxiousness, etc).
Also you are not supposed to deny a jumpseat based on competetive business situations, ie aloha should take Go! jumpseaters and vice versa. The business conflict in question there does not directly involve the pilots...but gojets is a different story.
Also you are not supposed to deny a jumpseat based on competetive business situations, ie aloha should take Go! jumpseaters and vice versa. The business conflict in question there does not directly involve the pilots...but gojets is a different story.
11-21-2006 | 08:50 PM
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Would any of you deny a jumpseater because he worked in a non union flying job. Not talking in the case of a Go-jetter (union buster) but specifically for instance a cargo guy with CASS privilages that happens to work for a company that doesnt have a union? Just curious
11-22-2006 | 04:25 AM
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Some guys are a way too obsessive about the whole thing... I agree that scabs shouldn't be allowed to ride. However, use a bit of common sense over the entire matter.
I recall being grilled once by a captain at UAL as to whether or not I was on the blacklist from their strike. He had to make sure too! Okay... so everybody has the right to check, but at the time I was a wet behind the ears 22 year old CRJ FO. (This was in early 2001). I found it amusing since I would have been 6 years old at the time of the strike.
I recall being grilled once by a captain at UAL as to whether or not I was on the blacklist from their strike. He had to make sure too! Okay... so everybody has the right to check, but at the time I was a wet behind the ears 22 year old CRJ FO. (This was in early 2001). I found it amusing since I would have been 6 years old at the time of the strike.
11-22-2006 | 06:27 AM
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People don't start J/S wars.. many of your friends rely on them to get to work! If the guy is on the ALPA Scab list, fine, otherwise.. let him on.
GoJet/Freedom is not something I'm familiar with, so I'll not comment on it.
GoJet/Freedom is not something I'm familiar with, so I'll not comment on it.
11-22-2006 | 07:38 AM
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There is a big difference in working for a company without a union vs. being a non-member at a pilot group that has unionized. ALPA and SWPA were always great to FedEx prior to us joining. Being part of CASS should help you make the flight.
11-22-2006 | 08:32 AM
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so how will you guys feel about taking someone that will work for 60% of the current pay rates in one of the most expensive places to live? Are you going to want to take them to work so they can undercut you? How are you going to feel when management comes and says we can't compete with this airline unless you come down to there payscale?
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