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Old 12-07-2006 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Velocipede
Actually, I've had the pleasure of rejecting B6 jerks a couple times. All you have to do is tell the gate agent when you arrive, "No jumpseats for jetBlue or Virgin America." That's all there is to it.
Is that so you don't have to deny them face to face? Pretty weak if that's the case.
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Old 12-07-2006 | 03:54 PM
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Default VA ops in SFO

They have one A320 they have been using around SFO lately,

I've seen it taxi around the airport...

It's generally parked over at Signature.
Yesterday they had it over at the international terminal looked like A12 where KLM usually parks...

Also ground crews have been painting lead in lines from A-taxiway to the D gates at the closed center concourse.

something is in the works...


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Old 12-07-2006 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Slice
Is that so you don't have to deny them face to face? Pretty weak if that's the case.

Yeah if I was going to deny someone I would tell them why...to their face.
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Old 12-07-2006 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BURflyer
Oh boy.


I think VA might have something original to offer in terms of product and the backing of Branson certainly doesn't hurt. The Virgin name is huge around the world. The down side is that management looks shady and I'm not sure about their operation centered in SFO, one of the worst airports when it comes to on time dep and arrivals. Vegasboy the pay seems a little low but certainly not out of the norm, can you shed some light on work rules?
what do you think they will offer that is original besides lower fares because they pay their employees less?
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Old 12-07-2006 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman
Hey Greenface,

found a new victim you can try to intimidate with your empty 'refuse the jumpseat' threat?
I would not want to sit in the same cockpit with you if it was the last flight out of Saigon (or Baghdad soon - if you lefties take over the country).
What defunct airline do you work for anyway - so I will never even attempt to fly with you.
Tell me about the time you actually did not take someone on your jumpseat, I don't think you even have the power to do so. Gateagent will overule you anyway you silly union air transportation worker.
that made me laugh, because the righties have done so well lately...
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Old 12-07-2006 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BURflyer
Vegasboy the pay seems a little low but certainly not out of the norm...
It was about $75 an hour below the norm for narrow body Captains until lowlife scumbag outfits like jetBlue came along and hired spineless dogs to fly for $129 an hour. Just like they are currently paying EMB Captains (a 100 seat airliner, BTW) $72 an hour. The Legacy wages were forced to come down to match by mangagement's use of the bankruptcy courts.

Non-union outfits like this are the bane of commercial passenger aviation. They initally make a ton of money on Euro subsidized Airbus leases and undercutting Union contracts. When the first 5 years are up, the good deal airplanes get sold off (see recent B6 news) and the "growth" that enticed the original cadre of spineless dorks into the Company stalls. About the 7th year, all they can hope for is a buyout (ala PeoplExpress) before the magician (Branson/Neeleman take your pick) folds up the tent and heads off for his next airline IPO.

Give VX or B6 pilots a ride to work? Don't make me laugh.
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Old 12-07-2006 | 04:33 PM
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What they're going to offer is something along the lines of Albuquerque to Florence using only 1 airline and only having to make a profit for one organization, and no RJ's. So, better (roomier) aircraft, better service (Virgin hallmark) and no code share for international travel, even to a non-gateway European airport.

Sounds like it has potential to me.
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Old 12-07-2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Slice
Is that so you don't have to deny them face to face? Pretty weak if that's the case.
Nope. I'll tell them to their face. Have, in fact. It gives me great pleasure, especially if its the last flight of the night to where they're going. I was just correcting the "impression" that my authority over the jumpseat as Captain could be circumvented by a gate agent.
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Old 12-07-2006 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jsled
...Not even Ind Air paid that ****ty...
Ironically, about half of the top ten guys in seniority at Virgin America are former Indy Air guys.

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Old 12-07-2006 | 05:10 PM
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I say original because I'm assuming they're going to be operating based on the virgin brand, have you ever flown on Virgin Atlantic? Hopefully they can find Virgin approved flight attendants too.
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