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Old 12-14-2006 | 02:03 PM
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You are the perfect portrait of a B6 employee, Gscab. You are the reason B6 pilots can go pound sand.
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Old 12-14-2006 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman
If we had another terroist attack after 9/11 would you blame George W. Bush?

Of course you would.

Now, if we did not have another terrorist attack - would you give the President any credit?

The fact is - We (the righties) are doing very well. You just can not imagine the alternative. As soon as we let up on these clows 'over there' we will see new attacks. I am sure that the new Democrat President named Obama or Hillary, will still blame Bush.
I don't blame bush for the first one why would I blame him for a second one if it ever happens. there were enough lefties and righties in there to share the blame.

answer me this. how many soldiers did we send to get osama vs. how many we sent to get saddam? Tell me why there is a big difference please. I don't recall that saddam was behind 9-11, do you.

I thought the right were to be bringing back accountability to washington. I guess since bush knows very little that he can't be held accountable for much.
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Old 12-15-2006 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
answer me this. how many soldiers did we send to get osama vs. how many we sent to get saddam? Tell me why there is a big difference please. I don't recall that saddam was behind 9-11, do you.
How many for Saddam - apparently enough.
How many for Osama - apparently not enough.

Before 9/11 - big deal if some fanatics blow something up.
After 9/11 - oops, those fanatics can really hurt us. Wan't to take the chance?
The world changed on 09/11/01, my friend. We have to go after everybody who has the ability to do us harm. Preferably preemptively.
Or do you want to wait until you or your family is affected to make sure we get the right clown?
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Old 12-15-2006 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman
How many for Saddam - apparently enough.
How many for Osama - apparently not enough.

Before 9/11 - big deal if some fanatics blow something up.
After 9/11 - oops, those fanatics can really hurt us. Wan't to take the chance?
The world changed on 09/11/01, my friend. We have to go after everybody who has the ability to do us harm. Preferably preemptively.
Or do you want to wait until you or your family is affected to make sure we get the right clown?

come on don't play that enough not enough game. give me some real numbers and then explain to me why they are so different along with who was the bigger threat.

really, the world changed after 9-11, thanks. so when are we going into north korea and iran?
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Old 12-16-2006 | 04:15 PM
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really, the world changed after 9-11, thanks. so when are we going into north korea and iran?[/quote]

many "experts" are saying Iran w/ in 2 years. One of the many reasons they need to finish the Iraq war.
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Old 12-16-2006 | 04:57 PM
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What will be the next stop in "finishing the war"? Syria? They harbor terrorists. Yemen? Yep, they do to. Turkey? Gotta help those Kurds. Kazakstan? They're notorious Armenian persecuters.

Man, we need a bigger military. Oh, that's right, Republicans don't want any taxes to pay for that or any other government program.

Something of a quandry...Hmm...How about if we declare victory, bring the boys home and let the ragheads smoke each other? Of course, that might have negative consequences for Halliburton's business enterprises in Iraq. CEO Dick Cheney won't like that. Or is he VPUS? Which pays more?
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Old 12-16-2006 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Velocipede
What will be the next stop in "finishing the war"? Syria? They harbor terrorists. Yemen? Yep, they do to. Turkey? Gotta help those Kurds. Kazakstan? They're notorious Armenian persecuters.

Man, we need a bigger military. Oh, that's right, Republicans don't want any taxes to pay for that or any other government program.

Something of a quandry...Hmm...How about if we declare victory, bring the boys home and let the ragheads smoke each other? Of course, that might have negative consequences for Halliburton's business enterprises in Iraq. CEO Dick Cheney won't like that. Or is he VPUS? Which pays more?
If you're here....whose running hell?
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Old 12-17-2006 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkyBN584
If you're here....whose running hell?

what a weak comment, not even funny. if you want to get into this conversation then get into it...
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Old 12-17-2006 | 06:03 AM
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I see both sides of this... mainly I stand with the unions as I'm also convinced that this obsession with the concept of a free market and labor rates for pilots is flawed at best. In the end, it's been proven that a 1000 hour pilot can command a heavy (USAF C-17, C5) and so it's not about free markets setting wages, as I am sure if VA offered to hire 1000TT CRJ FO's into the A320, they'd have more applications that they know what to do with!

We pilots are our own worse enemies, so we need to keep that in mind when we take these lower paying jobs, and displace lifting capacity from other higher paying companies.

In the end, I wish the best of luck to anyone taking any job, but if by chance you're taking a non-union job, PLEASE, consider that when the vote comes up to get one on the property, that you should vote YES! Just look at B6 and the stagnation they're in right now while WN is making 2X what they are.. Heck, even AirTran is making more money.

A UNION is a necessary evil in our business; erase all that BS you learned about the free market, and Walmart, and accept it as a reality of your "profession"

my $.02
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Old 12-17-2006 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
what a weak comment, not even funny. if you want to get into this conversation then get into it...
When someone doesn't have an argument, they generally resort to namecalling. That's why Rush Limbaugh is so popular with his particular "audience".
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