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12-17-2006 | 09:10 AM
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[QUOTE=Velocipede;93016]Darling, I get the point. Ever consider that I rattle the B6 cage simply to get a rise out of them?
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Oh, I get it NOW! So what you're trying to say is outside of this forum, you are actually a mild-mannered, fun-loving, laid-back, sweetheart of a guy!?
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Oh, I get it NOW! So what you're trying to say is outside of this forum, you are actually a mild-mannered, fun-loving, laid-back, sweetheart of a guy!?
12-17-2006 | 09:14 AM
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Did you read my opinion? I explain how increasing troops, in my opinion, is a bad idea. We need to get the Iraqis ready to take control of their own security not do it for them...
Why are the old Baathists not being welcomed back into the military / security services?
-LAFF
Why are the old Baathists not being welcomed back into the military / security services?
-LAFF
We're already well into the process of handing things over to the Iraqi's FOR THE SECOND TIME and it's not going as well as we'd like. The first went went bad because we rushed it and didn't stabilize the situation. If we rush it again we're just setting ourselves up for another setback and escalation.
As far as de-Baathisfication, I think it's the biggest mistake of the entire conflict...but that doesn't mean that the right answer for now, isn't more boots on the ground.
12-17-2006 | 10:10 AM
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Darling, I get the point. Ever consider that I rattle the B6 cage simply to get a rise out of them?
Of course my other agenda is to get every Union Captain on board with the "deny B6 jumpseats" program. Would you give a child molester a ride to your daughter's elementary school? Of course not.
Then why would you give someone actively undercutting your contract making your quality of life suffer a ride to work so he can continue whacking you?
Of course my other agenda is to get every Union Captain on board with the "deny B6 jumpseats" program. Would you give a child molester a ride to your daughter's elementary school? Of course not.
Then why would you give someone actively undercutting your contract making your quality of life suffer a ride to work so he can continue whacking you?
12-17-2006 | 10:43 AM
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However, all are negotiated, agreed to and ratified by their respective memberships. What sticks in my craw is the non-Union types who accept employment at low wages/no benefits. Then they come around and ask Union pilots for Union negotiated benefits (jumpseats).
Is that a simple enough explanation for you?
12-17-2006 | 12:01 PM
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The WalMartization of the airline industry is driven by two things:
1. The American public doesn't want to pay for anything (that's why WalMart is so big).
2. Some people will suffer any indignity to get a job. They'll work for substandard wages and benefits (the OTHER reason why WalMart is so big).
Greedy managers will prey on the ignorance of those who will debase themselves. Curious how the common thread is the Rah! Rah! attitude demonstrated by the Kool-Aid drinkers employed by those companies, be it B6, VX or WalMart.
They work for substandard wage/benefit packages while the Walton family consistently heads the list of the world's richest individuals. So, who is the sucker in this picture?
1. The American public doesn't want to pay for anything (that's why WalMart is so big).
2. Some people will suffer any indignity to get a job. They'll work for substandard wages and benefits (the OTHER reason why WalMart is so big).
Greedy managers will prey on the ignorance of those who will debase themselves. Curious how the common thread is the Rah! Rah! attitude demonstrated by the Kool-Aid drinkers employed by those companies, be it B6, VX or WalMart.
They work for substandard wage/benefit packages while the Walton family consistently heads the list of the world's richest individuals. So, who is the sucker in this picture?
Let's change that to-"The American public doesn't want to pay for me". Do you owe me a living? Say yes and guess I might say I guess I owe you one.
And let's change it to "Some people will suffer any indignity to feed themselves or their family".
Understand the bulk of America struggles to get by. This is a competitive capitalist system. If I want to save money and fly JetBlue, SWA, or AirTran and save MY money- I don't owe you jack.
If you find my product not to your liking or too costly- don't buy it. That's called competition in a free market system. And believe me, I'm no fan of WalMart.
12-17-2006 | 12:10 PM
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Guys, I think Velocipede makes a good point with regards to not giving the J/S to a pilot working for a carrier that is non-union and undercuts his wage (or his power to seeks a good wage).
In the end, do we all want to be a part of a race to the bottom? and help the executives get rich while turning our industry into Walmart, and our profession into a job that ranks below garbage man? or do we want to hold our ground and act like we're all in this together and try (every one of us) to raise the bar?
Not saying that all companies must pay the same, but if a company is making hand over fist while not paying the same wages as another company that is making a decent profit (but not as much), who in the end does that really help? The pilots? or the managers?
In the end, do we all want to be a part of a race to the bottom? and help the executives get rich while turning our industry into Walmart, and our profession into a job that ranks below garbage man? or do we want to hold our ground and act like we're all in this together and try (every one of us) to raise the bar?
Not saying that all companies must pay the same, but if a company is making hand over fist while not paying the same wages as another company that is making a decent profit (but not as much), who in the end does that really help? The pilots? or the managers?
12-17-2006 | 12:30 PM
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And let's change it to "Some people will suffer any indignity to feed themselves or their family".
This is a competitive capitalist system. If I want to save money and fly JetBlue, SWA, or AirTran and save MY money- I don't owe you jack.
12-17-2006 | 12:39 PM
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From: FAR part 347 (91+121+135)
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