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Old 01-13-2016, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CODs4ever View Post
Then we better hope he never goes to the dark side. Ha!
I assure my pilot brothers/sisters that I will NEVER go to the dark side.. I don't want to get ahead of myself but I would like to help fix the airline industry if I can.. Airline Pilot Central is a very powerful force. Let me just put it this way. Let's start at the regional airline level..If Delta and United can afford the CRJ900 rates they published, so can every regional airline out there..Its just that management does NOT want to do the right thing..I may have my UAL offer taken back for saying this but I really don't care. My parents taught us to stand up for what's right, ALWAYS..I don't mean to sound cocky but I understand business very well and Airline Pilots in America have taken a severe beating since deregulation and all because of incompetent management practices..I have a lot more to say but I will stop here for now. I am all for humanity and I hate to say this but management is not human.

Sorry for the run on sentence but I want to keep it simple.
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Old 01-13-2016, 07:22 PM
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Thanks Irish! I will look into this.
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Old 01-14-2016, 01:06 AM
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If the Majors start flying regional jets in house and pay Delta/United CRJ900 pay rates, the entire industry would be fixed. There would be no need for "regional airlines" anymore. Every pilot would become a Major Airline Pilot and the entry level seat would be the small jets(RJ's)..The industry will become a million times safer as all training would be conducted by the Major Airline itself. There wouldn't be a bidding war or a race to the bottom as they say. Hiring standards would go up and better quality of people will become Airline Pilots since now it's a real profession with real salaries. There wouldnt be these cheesy names like go jets, envoy, republic, endeavor, commutair, etc, etc, etc...It would simply be American Airlines or Delta Airlines or United Airlines painted on these aircraft..There is a lot more to it but you folks get the idea..Cost is NOT a factor, I assure you. Net, net it's a win win situation for management and employee groups..BUT, the problem is that pilots at the Majors didn't want this because they thought they were better than regional pilots..They thought flying an RJ was below them so management is not alone to blame..The industry can be fixed and it's really not that hard either..Will it happen? That is to be seen
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Old 01-14-2016, 04:01 AM
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"The industry will become a million times safer as all training would be conducted by the Major Airline itself."


How many regional airline training programs have you reviewed?
How many major airline training programs have you reviewed?


It's interesting talking with military guys that go the regional route awaiting a call from the majors. The guys I've spoken with speak highly of the training programs they went through. So I'm curious as to which companies you've identified as under performers, and why? And which training programs do you think have gotten better at the majors?

And if the training is better at the majors why did the DOT IG just say the training, across the industry, isn't good enough?
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Old 01-14-2016, 05:27 AM
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Anyone else besides LGA get hired?
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Old 01-14-2016, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by LGApilot View Post
If the Majors start flying regional jets in house and pay Delta/United CRJ900 pay rates, the entire industry would be fixed. There would be no need for "regional airlines" anymore. Every pilot would become a Major Airline Pilot and the entry level seat would be the small jets(RJ's)..The industry will become a million times safer as all training would be conducted by the Major Airline itself. There wouldn't be a bidding war or a race to the bottom as they say. Hiring standards would go up and better quality of people will become Airline Pilots since now it's a real profession with real salaries. There wouldnt be these cheesy names like go jets, envoy, republic, endeavor, commutair, etc, etc, etc...It would simply be American Airlines or Delta Airlines or United Airlines painted on these aircraft..There is a lot more to it but you folks get the idea..Cost is NOT a factor, I assure you. Net, net it's a win win situation for management and employee groups..BUT, the problem is that pilots at the Majors didn't want this because they thought they were better than regional pilots..They thought flying an RJ was below them so management is not alone to blame..The industry can be fixed and it's really not that hard either..Will it happen? That is to be seen
Your grammar and vast generalizations are not consistent with your stated education.
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Old 01-14-2016, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by LGApilot View Post
If the Majors start flying regional jets in house and pay Delta/United CRJ900 pay rates, the entire industry would be fixed. There would be no need for "regional airlines" anymore. Every pilot would become a Major Airline Pilot and the entry level seat would be the small jets(RJ's)..The industry will become a million times safer as all training would be conducted by the Major Airline itself. ent is not alone to blame..The industry can be fixed and it's really not that hard either..Will it happen?
Slice NAILED it.

Getting hired at a legacy at your age was an impressive feat. But as you said, you weren't the first and you won't be the last.

But a slight bit of naïveté/ignorance is showing through here. As far as the bold part, NO. It WOULDN'T fix the "industry". Pilots being on a mainline list DOESNT fix an industry where the companies are a "Corp" or "Inc" and is STILL driven by Wall St, stock price, share holder value, quarterly reports, CASM, RSM's, whatever......

It would simply help the CAREER get BACK to where it belongs.

Annnnnnnnnnd, as COD said, who else has been hired lately?
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Old 01-14-2016, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ricky bobby View Post
Your grammar and vast generalizations are not consistent with your stated education.
He's 24 and he assures you based on his 6 months employment in private equities.

I jest
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Old 01-14-2016, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback View Post
It's interesting talking with military guys that go the regional route awaiting a call from the majors. The guys I've spoken with speak highly of the training programs they went through.
Good point Sliceback. I am a former Navy tailhook pilot. Went through American Eagle training in 2004 and I was impressed overall with the quality of training. Granted the training was conducted at AAL facilities (the ERJ sim in same bldg as the mainline AA sims), but the instructors and the IOE captains were 100% American Eagle.

My only real complaint was the paycheck.
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Old 01-14-2016, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ricky bobby View Post
Your grammar and vast generalizations are not consistent with your stated education.
I've been thinking the same thing. I've been waiting for the straw to break the camel's back.

It could just be an English as a second language deal, but I'm skeptical. I hope we're proved wrong.
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