BlindBentBingo

Discuss.

Personally, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop - wondering if it will be a contractual matter. Will we have to sign a contract to stay in until our anniversary date to be eligible, meaning that if we leave earlier we not only lose the bonus but also become legally liable for breach of contract?

Beyond that, and the smokescreen of why that vs increased 1st year pay, I guess on paper it makes up for the difference. Maybe a bit more.

I'm still hoping I'm working a different terminal/airport in NYC by the time I'm eligible.

BlindBentBingo

Oh, and the smokescreen comment: I don't think the freeze of 1st year pay has much to do with pending arbitration/litigation at all. I think it was a calculated decision: the company knows that the new PEA will result in a significant number of pilots bailing out to greener pastures. A pilot doing so past the 1yr point really doesn't hurt them at all in a direct fiscal manner (pilot force quality is obviously a different matter). In fact, it probably helps them - they make the $50k they spend in recruiting/training a new pilot within a few years due to the pay differential.

But, I think their beancounters calculated that losing a 1yr pilot does hurt more than it helps (and based on what I know, they're losing a good number of them). This reduces that impact, plus once they get a pilot in for 13 months, enjoying a line and lots of movement below and above, they know the decision to leave is harder. Smart. Wish they'd be honest about it, though.

But it's going to make for an interesting pilot force mix - for sure, there are MANY superb pilots who will remain for tangible or intangible reasons. But, just like the military where similar programs have been in place for a while, you'll also see a rise of the "Mediocracy" - those that stay because they have few options elsewhere.

rvr1800

Give a pilot a bag of money and he'll find a way to complain about it.

This is about a 12% raise to first year guys who, using the rule of thumb of adding 3 zeros to hourly rate, make $50,000.

Good luck getting on with the airline in NYC that you want to be at. I hope you're senior to me.

pilotpayne

[QUOTE=BlindBentBingo;1555185]Oh, and the smokescreen comment: I don't think the freeze of 1st year pay has much to do with pending arbitration/litigation at all. I think it was a calculated decision: the company knows that the new PEA will result in a significant number of pilots bailing out to greener pastures. A pilot doing so past the 1yr point really doesn't hurt them at all in a direct fiscal manner (pilot force quality is obviously a different matter). In fact, it probably helps them - they make the $50k they spend in recruiting/training a new pilot within a few years due to the pay differential.

But, I think their beancounters calculated that losing a 1yr pilot does hurt more than it helps (and based on what I know, they're losing a good number of them). This reduces that impact, plus once they get a pilot in for 13 months, enjoying a line and lots of movement below and above, they know the decision to leave is harder. Smart. Wish they'd be honest about it, though.

But it's going to make for an interesting pilot force mix - for sure, there are MANY superb pilots who will remain for tangible or intangible reasons. But, just like the military where similar programs have been in place for a while, you'll also see a rise of the "Mediocracy" - those that stay because they have few options


Nevermind I see you are in the pool for Delta.

BlindBentBingo

In the DAL pool. In the meantime (even if that meantime is until my 65th birthday), happy where I am.

BlindBentBingo

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pilotpayne

Yeah sorry about that I looked at your other posts.
I deleted mine.
Good luck at Delta.
And I am not being sarcastic.

Climbto450

Hopefully, all Blue pilots will be employeed by Delta in the next 5 years. Once the union comes in Dave and the board are going to put this place up for agressive sale. Ask me if I am complaining about that? Hopefully DL, AA or UA here we come for it is SWA and we will screwed.

Snarge

would any of those carriers be a merger? Sounds like a buy out/staple job.... especially with no representation...

pilotpayne

You can read right?
He said once the UNION is voted in that they would sell us.