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Old 02-10-2014 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by globalexpress
Don't talk in parables. Talk in math.
Our completely unrepayable debt and comically unpayable long term unfunded obligations are all the math you need to know. Meanwhile there are trillions of sitting duck dollars in all these affluent middle class retirement vehicles, the vast majority of which belong to the upper 51%.

They are coming for your money, and they will get it. One way or another. They will tax it, and they will take it in ways they don't call a tax. They will inflate it away and they will use what you have left to means test you out of other benefits which is the same as a tax.

Save, diversify and pay down debt. That's all you can do. You won't be getting any "tax free" income in a couple decades. And if you do, it will trigger financial hits every bit as expensive as a retroactive tax on what you thought was going to be tax free. The masses will vote for your money, one way or another.
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Old 02-10-2014 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Our completely unrepayable debt and comically unpayable long term unfunded obligations are all the math you need to know. Meanwhile there are trillions of sitting duck dollars in all these affluent middle class retirement vehicles, the vast majority of which belong to the upper 51%.

They are coming for your money, and they will get it. One way or another. They will tax it, and they will take it in ways they don't call a tax. They will inflate it away and they will use what you have left to means test you out of other benefits which is the same as a tax.

Save, diversify and pay down debt. That's all you can do. You won't be getting any "tax free" income in a couple decades. And if you do, it will trigger financial hits every bit as expensive as a retroactive tax on what you thought was going to be tax free. The masses will vote for your money, one way or another.
I certainly understand the sentiment. The way things look today, that seems like a logical outcome. But you have to remember that we're currently under the Obama Malaise and things could change in the future. This country has demonstrated great resilience in the past. I wouldn't give up on it yet.
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Old 02-10-2014 | 11:49 AM
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I certainly understand the sentiment. The way things look today, that seems like a logical outcome. But you have to remember that we're currently under the Obama Malaise and things could change in the future. This country has demonstrated great resilience in the past. I wouldn't give up on it yet.
BHO - Two more years.
HRC - Eight more years.
Doomed = Ten more years.

I'm purchasing property "outside" of the U.S.

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Old 02-10-2014 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
BHO - Two more years.
HRC - Eight more years.
Doomed = Ten more years.

I'm purchasing property "outside" of the U.S.

GJ
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Old 02-10-2014 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
I certainly understand the sentiment. The way things look today, that seems like a logical outcome. But you have to remember that we're currently under the Obama Malaise and things could change in the future. This country has demonstrated great resilience in the past. I wouldn't give up on it yet.
Yeah. Russia demonstrated great resilience after the ruble went to worthless too. The problem is, it went to worthless.

PS our 250 year history isn't enough time to demonstrate "great" resilience. Snowmaggedon ATL, make it last all winter...what's that look like?
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Old 02-10-2014 | 12:03 PM
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Bay Islands in Honduras are nice, and not overly fond of Barry.
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Old 02-10-2014 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Yeah. Russia demonstrated great resilience after the ruble went to worthless too. The problem is, it went to worthless.

PS our 250 year history isn't enough time to demonstrate "great" resilience. Snowmaggedon ATL, make it last all winter...what's that look like?
Hey, I'm not going to argue with anyone over what's going to happen in the future. Because I do not know for certain what's going to happen and neither does anyone else. We all make decisions (financial and otherwise) to some degree based on assumptions. DYODD. I just get tired of hearing all the "I know exactly what's going to happen and anybody who disagrees with me is stoopid" arguments (not at all saying that's what you or anyone else is doing here)... "Goldfinger" on the old DALPA Forum pretty much used up all my patience with that.
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Old 02-10-2014 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Our completely unrepayable debt and comically unpayable long term unfunded obligations are all the math you need to know. Meanwhile there are trillions of sitting duck dollars in all these affluent middle class retirement vehicles, the vast majority of which belong to the upper 51%.

They are coming for your money, and they will get it. One way or another. They will tax it, and they will take it in ways they don't call a tax. They will inflate it away and they will use what you have left to means test you out of other benefits which is the same as a tax.

Save, diversify and pay down debt. That's all you can do. You won't be getting any "tax free" income in a couple decades. And if you do, it will trigger financial hits every bit as expensive as a retroactive tax on what you thought was going to be tax free. The masses will vote for your money, one way or another.
Wow! I didn't know you could predict the future! And I didn't realize that our debt was "unrepayable?" That's news to me too. And the rest of the world. So entities, like foreign countries, are buying our government's bonds knowing that we're never going to be able to pay the back or we're going to turn on the printing presses until our money is worth nothing? Hmmm.....
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Old 02-10-2014 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
I certainly understand the sentiment. The way things look today, that seems like a logical outcome. But you have to remember that we're currently under the Obama Malaise and things could change in the future. This country has demonstrated great resilience in the past. I wouldn't give up on it yet.
You won't be so optimistic if the most intelligent woman on the planet wins election. The socialist wet dream of single payer health care will be realized, and you and I will be paying for it.

At least pot will be legal in most states by then.....
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Old 02-10-2014 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by globalexpress
Wow! I didn't know you could predict the future! And I didn't realize that our debt was "unrepayable?" That's news to me too. And the rest of the world. So entities, like foreign countries, are buying our government's bonds knowing that we're never going to be able to pay the back or we're going to turn on the printing presses until our money is worth nothing? Hmmm.....
Do you have any idea how big a number like 17 trillion is?



Obviously not.
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