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Old 03-22-2014, 03:44 PM
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Switch to oldest, what is the oldest new hire for a regional?
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Old 03-22-2014, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kb8018 View Post
I know I'm pretty new around here, but this sort of ignorance annoys me....

"That's a lot to ask, even of a trained pilot. And the stress is evident. During the Vietnam War, Hubbard said, researchers attached sensors to pilots' bodies to see when they experienced the most anxiety during night missions over North Vietnam.
The highest readings were not when the pilots braved ground-to-air missiles or flew in areas patrolled by enemy aircraft. The greatest stress was when the pilots came home and tried to snag that cable."

We learn this in flight school, and here are the facts to back it up. That should probably sufficiently answer your question.

Blizzard in O'Hare < Dodging SAMs in Vietnam < Landing on the boat at night
A bit thinned skinned are we? All that proves is your heart rate is up. As my kids say, No Duh?

The topic here is age vs. experience so what the fark has landing on a boat got to do with having any experience operating in a 121 environment, in all weather, all the time?

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As I said earlier, I was just repeating what my sim partner, an F14 guy, told me, he admitted he was "Lost" when it came to Airline ops. but he was a quick learner, as are most fighter guys, and most have a pretty good sense of humor about the transition.

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Old 03-22-2014, 04:51 PM
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but he was a quick learner, as are most fighter guys,
Except for Marines.
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:03 PM
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I had just turned 27 when I started with NWA in early 2008, was second youngest in the class. There's only about 6 people ahead of me here at DAL that are younger and senior to me.

I'm guessing the youngest guy on the list is probably mid 20's now. That's typically the young side of the hiring range. Avg is normally around 32 from what I've seen
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Flightsoffusion View Post
Switch to oldest, what is the oldest new hire for a regional?
I recently met a 63 year old FO at ASA side of ExpressJet. He was pretty junior 1-2 year seniority range IIRC
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Old 03-22-2014, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92 View Post
I had just turned 27 when I started with NWA in early 2008, was second youngest in the class. There's only about 6 people ahead of me here at DAL that are younger and senior to me.
EEOC hire.
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Old 03-22-2014, 11:23 PM
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Never mind

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Old 03-23-2014, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone View Post
Here is the real question:

Who is the youngest to voluntarily retire?

Keep your eye on the ball. Enjoy your career (You dont need to be a 777 Captain or #1 on the list), spend but also have a lot of $$$ saved up so you can retire and live a quality life.

My goal is to retire mid 50s. Im on track, but I have been furloughed a couple times. Its really hard to stay focused when you are furloughed but stay on path and you can retire rich and have a great life.

By the way, I was the youngest guy hired in my years. I would have retired single digits. But with mergers, chaos, diseases, weather, wars, personal abilities; all this can and will go away.

With that in mind, enjoy NOW responsibly, but also know and plan for a comfortable retirement. Do not be a victim of, "I need the retirement age to be 70, to retire. Im broke!" Keep your first wife at all costs and dont try to get rich quick. Very risky. A good and short book to read is "the Richest Man in Babylon". My father gave this book to me in High School; No secrets just common cents!

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Not only is it cheaper to keep her, but I'd advocate for a reasonable house that costs nowhere near needing a mainline pilot salary to afford, only buying "toys" you can afford to pay cash for (no exceptions), "paying yourself" i.e. saving (401k maxing out plus saving hard until you have at least one year's full expenses set aside) and stop the insanity of throwing 6 figures+ at every kid for a reading list of free material even when the odds are overwhelming for no to negative ROI.

This is becoming the biggest issue of our time, and directly effects our strength in collective bargaining. If you "can't afford" to walk away, then you have to take pretty much anything you're offered, and there's a lot of smart people on the other side that know that. I'm not saying blow the college money on toys, but in the vast majority of cases, its better spent on things other than college. Rather than blowing a buck fifty so daddy's little girl can get an arts history degree only to struggle finding work at the coffee shop, put that money aside at the same rate in a retirement account and she'll be guaranteed to retire a millionaire.
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EEOC hire.
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Old 03-23-2014, 08:40 AM
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Not only is it cheaper to keep her, but I'd advocate for a reasonable house that costs nowhere near needing a mainline pilot salary to afford, only buying "toys" you can afford to pay cash for (no exceptions), "paying yourself" i.e. saving (401k maxing out plus saving hard until you have at least one year's full expenses set aside) and stop the insanity of throwing 6 figures+ at every kid for a reading list of free material even when the odds are overwhelming for no to negative ROI.

This is becoming the biggest issue of our time, and directly effects our strength in collective bargaining. If you "can't afford" to walk away, then you have to take pretty much anything you're offered, and there's a lot of smart people on the other side that know that. I'm not saying blow the college money on toys, but in the vast majority of cases, its better spent on things other than college. Rather than blowing a buck fifty so daddy's little girl can get an arts history degree only to struggle finding work at the coffee shop, put that money aside at the same rate in a retirement account and she'll be guaranteed to retire a millionaire.

Pretty good post !
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