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Erdude32 08-15-2014 04:29 AM

RECAll LEE MOAK NOW
 
Write your reps, call ALPA National and burn up the phone lines. Submit resolutions, ask for an emergency MEC meeting at your carrier and kick him out of Herndon. This guy is a sellout and is no longer working in OUR interested, but that of Wall Street and Management.

ALPA National Switchboard: 703-689-2270

scambo1 08-15-2014 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by Erdude32 (Post 1705819)
Write your reps, call ALPA National and burn up the phone lines. Submit resolutions, ask for an emergency MEC meeting at your carrier and kick him out of Herndon. This guy is a sellout and is no longer working in OUR interested, but that of Wall Street and Management.

ALPA National Switchboard: 703-689-2270

Done. I don't need guys like him on my side.

DAL 88 Driver 08-15-2014 04:56 AM

Input sent to my reps. He needs to go. Yesterday.

ResinHead 08-15-2014 05:02 AM

I rarely have time to review the boards... educate me.
Post the bullet points and I can do my research from there.
Why should he be tossed out and who do you think will take his place?
Do you have a personal problem with him or is he taking the organization in the wrong direction?

Erdude32 08-15-2014 05:10 AM

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Pilot Contract Talks in 2015 to Come Amid Robust Airline Profits

By Justin Bachman August 13, 2014
With U.S. airlines awash in cash these days, one of the big questions in the industry has become how much of that wealth will pilots seek next year when contracts at several carriers come up for renegotiation.



Contracts at four large airlines—Delta Air Lines (DAL), Hawaiian (HA), Spirit (SAVE), and Jazz Aviation, a regional operator for Air Canada—are up for talks in 2015, covering nearly 15,000 pilots represented by the Air Line Pilots Association, the largest pilots union in North America. JetBlue Airways’ (JBLU) 2,500 pilots are also hoping to secure their first contract next year, after voting this spring to join ALPA.


U.S. carriers are producing enormous profits after years of consolidation. In the most recent quarter, the six largest U.S. carriers collectively earned $3.97 billion, with American, Southwest, Alaska Airlines (ALK), and JetBlue all reporting record net income for the period. U.S. carriers lost almost $60 billion from 2000 to 2009.


“This is really a good story,” ALPA President Lee Moak said Tuesday during a visit to Bloomberg Businessweek in New York, part of a quick tour to assure Wall Street analysts that ALPA’s contract demands won’t prove onerous to airlines. “I almost can’t stand it, it’s so good.”


Shareholders have started to realize returns in the form of dividends and stock buybacks. Thanks to the profits, pilots now see themselves as collaborators with management—they increasingly lobby alongside airline executives in Washington. That, says Moak, deepens the working relationships. “All of a sudden, you find yourself on the same side of 95 percent of the issues,” he says.


Another boost has come from profit-sharing schemes adopted by the airlines as a way of rewarding employees when times are good—and the deals carry no commitments should profit shrink. In February, Delta paid employees, including its 11,900 pilots, a record $506 million in profit sharing, equal to about 8 percent of annual salaries. The airline forecasts that amount to increase next year, given higher profit this year.


Southwest expects to pay out $228 million to workers this year in profit shares, nearly double the amount from 2013. United paid $190 million in February tied to its income last year. (Delta and United make the payments on Valentine’s Day.) Several airlines also pay workers monthly incentives for meeting performance targets, such as more on-time arrivals and improvements on the rate of mishandled bags. United paid employees an extra $125 for meeting on-time arrival and departure goals in July. Delta says it paid nearly $92 million last year in similar incentives. “The employees are now coupled to the airlines,” says Moak, a Delta captain who is stepping down at year’s end after four years as president.
Of course, all the cash an airline generates can go to shareholders or employees, and that basic dynamic is likely to play out in the 2015 contract negotiations—especially at Delta and Spirit, both industry leaders when it comes to superior financial returns. Moak contends that ALPA pilots at the larger carriers enjoy what he calls “mature, good contracts” already. Radical overhauls aren’t in the cards, he says.


Most of the contract talks are likely to center on basic compensation—hourly pay rates and how much carriers pay into pilots’ retirement plans. “There will be a business discussion of pay as it relates to revenue,” Moak says. “You can argue about $2 or $2.05, and that matters to the crew member,” but “you’re working on the margins” on the new contracts, he says.


Airlines have been mum on what they’ll seek in the contract talks, despite some analyst queries on quarterly earnings calls. “We have a productive and proactive relationship with our pilots and ALPA, focused on winning in the marketplace and addressing our business challenges and opportunities together,” Delta spokeswoman Kate Modolo said in an e-mail. A Spirit spokesman, Paul Berry, declined to comment, as did a spokeswoman for Hawaiian, Alison Croyle.

Erdude32 08-15-2014 05:12 AM

Airline Profits Will Drive 2015 Pilot Contract Talks - Businessweek

Bucking Bar 08-15-2014 06:04 AM

(written generically to those on this thread, nobody in particular)

This is kind of silly. Save yourself the embarrassment.

The procedure to recall a President is via Executive Board which would require the action of your MEC Chairman. We have a Board of Director's meeting in October and Lee Moak has thus far signalled he is not running.

Besides, the interview with President Moak was as short as the article's quotes.

Moak's been right on the matter of our getting better contracts with healthy employers.

Check Essential 08-15-2014 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1705868)
(written generically to those on this thread, nobody in particular)

This is kind of silly. Save yourself the embarrassment.

The procedure to recall a President is via Executive Board which would require the action of your MEC Chairman. We have a Board of Director's meeting in October and Lee Moak has thus far signalled he is not running.

Besides, the interview with President Moak was as short as the article's quotes.

Moak's been right on the matter of our getting better contracts with healthy employers.

Bar-
I agree with you on the Moak recall. There's not enough time for it to make a difference.

I disagree on your dismissal of his comments. They are genuinely troubling.

Combine Moak's statements with Anderson's recent comment to investors that his relationship with ALPA is so good that labor risk is completely off the table at Delta Air Lines and I think we should all start to get worried.

Then there's the letters from the UAL Legislative Affairs Chairman describing Moak's role in sabotaging their negotiations...

The evidence is mounting. ALPA may be compromised. They're not what we think.

If we want to have real negotiations for Contract 2015 and not just some sham production orchestrated by ALPA and management to look like negotiations, then we might need to recall more than Moak. His minions are thoroughly entrenched at DALPA.

sailingfun 08-15-2014 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1705880)
Bar-
I agree with you on the Moak recall. There's not enough time for it to make a difference.

I disagree on your dismissal of his comments. They are genuinely troubling.

Combine Moak's statements with Anderson's recent comment to investors that his relationship with ALPA is so good that labor risk is completely off the table at Delta Air Lines and I think we should all start to get worried.

Then there's the letters from the UAL Legislative Affairs Chairman describing Moak's role in sabotaging their negotiations...

The evidence is mounting. ALPA may be compromised. They're not what we think.

If we want to have real negotiations for Contract 2015 and not just some sham production orchestrated by ALPA and management to look like negotiations, then we might need to recall more than Moak. His minions are thoroughly entrenched at DALPA.


You might find that the reporter took comments out of context or left out amplifying statements. If you have ever dealt with the press it happens most of the time. Still there should be a response from LM.

Bucking Bar 08-15-2014 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1705880)
Bar-
I agree with you on the Moak recall. There's not enough time for it to make a difference.

I disagree on your dismissal of his comments. They are genuinely troubling.

Combine Moak's statements with Anderson's recent comment to investors that his relationship with ALPA is so good that labor risk is completely off the table at Delta Air Lines and I think we should all start to get worried.

Then there's the letters from the UAL Legislative Affairs Chairman describing Moak's role in sabotaging their negotiations...

The evidence is mounting. ALPA may be compromised. They're not what we think.

If we want to have real negotiations for Contract 2015 and not just some sham production orchestrated by ALPA and management to look like negotiations, then we might need to recall more than Moak. His minions are thoroughly entrenched at DALPA.

You are correct that if we line pilots are going to change anything, then the place to begin is with our Reps and local offices.

Some of ALPA's best strategic thinkers are finding they make a lot more money flying the line with a lot less headache. (despite the DPA's claims to the contrary ... ). They still have very astute opinions, but I think we are seeing a lot of change in the day to day administrative staffing.

Frankly, I do not know how that shapes up, politically.


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