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ManFlex 04-11-2015 12:06 PM

I know Spirit has hired a few from the ME3.

ShyGuy 04-11-2015 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1859211)
Then throw in a guess how much most of their ground personnel earn. I cannot speak for Emirates since I didn't have the opportunity to speak with their people directly; however, when I lived there I spoke with security guards, people who worked on my villa, and people who worked in the mall -- they typically earned $2000 to $4000 a year, had their passports taken from them, and lived in spaces that would make the most ghetto crash pad feel like a palace. The way the oil monarchies treat their imported labor is criminal in most western countries.

And our iPads, iPhones, clothing, and shoes are made in Chinese sweatshops where they make a dollar a day and we buy them without complaining for $400.

:rolleyes:

galaxy flyer 04-11-2015 04:10 PM

ShyGuy,

And everyone one of those Chinese workers is better off than they were before working making clothing, iPhones, iPads, etc. and every Westerner who bought those items has the savings from buying (enter country) goods that are less expensive than if produced here. It's called comparative advantage and, ever since Ricardo postulated the theory we've all, Chinese, Vietnamese, and a Western have been better off.

GF

PS: His theory also killed off the English landed aristocracy.

Carl Spackler 04-11-2015 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1860055)
Flying the giant forehead ain't impressive enough to get you hired if you act like it makes you Niel Armstrong.

Or Neil Armstrong. ;)

Carl

Whip Whitaker 04-11-2015 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by globalexpress (Post 1860022)
Nope, I'm pretty sure I am correct. He's president of the Dubai Civil Aviation Authority which regulates aviation in Dubai. Further, Sheik Ahmed is ALSO Chairman of "Dubai Airports Company" which sets airport fees and charges and is responsible for airport infrastructure which is overseen by.........wait for it.......the Dubai Civil Aviation Authority. When you're the King, eh, Sheik, you pretty much run everything.

Umm,mmm No Global. The Dubai Civil Aviation Authority is responsible for managing and running Dubai Airport. The GCAA which covers the UAE is the aviation regulator. Shiek Ahmed is the head of the Dubai Civil Aviation Authority.
You might want to try Google sometime, it really works.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gener...tion_Authority

globalexpress 04-11-2015 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by Whip Whitaker (Post 1860282)
Umm,mmm No Global. The Dubai Civil Aviation Authority is responsible for managing and running Dubai Airport. The GCAA which covers the UAE is the aviation regulator. Shiek Ahmed is the head of the Dubai Civil Aviation Authority.
You might want to try Google sometime, it really works.

General Civil Aviation Authority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to the flow chart, the Dubai Airports Company builds airport infrastructure and sets fees and airport charges. Since the Dubai Civil Aviation authority has oversight of the Dubai Airports Company, then true, the Dubai Civil Aviation Authority directly/indirectly (it all leads to the same guy, does it matter?) runs Al Maktoum International Airport at Dubai World Central in Jebel Ali, Dubai International Airport, and Dubai Cargo Village though the Dubai Airports Company. If you follow the lines, they ALL lead to Sheikh Ahmed.

Apparently there is a GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority and a Civil Aviation Authority. That I did not know. I can't find the connection, but I suspect the GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority falls under the Civil Aviation Authority, because the Civil Aviation Authority, "undertakes development of air transport industry in the Emirate of Dubai and oversees ALL aviation related activities." I also suspect it falls under the Civil Aviation Authority because the Civil Aviation Authority reports directly to Sheikh Ahmed. After all, he's president of the Authority. If I'm wrong, I stand corrected. In that case, the Civil Aviation Authority maybe goes to one of the other Sheikhs or just follows another branch to Sheikh Ahmed.

If, worst case(!), the GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority traces to another Sheikh, wanna bet Sheikh Ahmed has the guy on his speed dial?

SUX4U 04-12-2015 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by VnavPath (Post 1860099)
A cocky attitude is NEVER a good thing, regardless if your interviewing somewhere new or at your current place of employment. I'm really disappointed to hear your friend has had this experience so far. I can assure you that an overwhelming majority (at least at EK) aren't this way at all. Everyone I know from here that has interviewed at a US Major has gotten hired (about 10 or so in the last year.) Not saying we don't have our village idiots, but a large majority are stellar guys and gals that I look forward to sharing the cockpit with again.

I myself was disappointed to hear that perception was being received in a legacy airlines hiring department. Considering the fact some of my best friends are over at an ME3 carrier, it was not the response I was looking for. Now how big of an impact will this have over the long run? For the good guys over there I hope it will be a non-event. I of course passed this along to them as well as here as we all know that it is good to be aware of all things that could prevent someone from coming home.

Typhoonpilot 04-12-2015 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by globalexpress (Post 1860389)
According to the flow chart, the Dubai Airports Company builds airport infrastructure and sets fees and airport charges. Since the Dubai Civil Aviation authority has oversight of the Dubai Airports Company, then true, the Dubai Civil Aviation Authority directly/indirectly (it all leads to the same guy, does it matter?) runs Al Maktoum International Airport at Dubai World Central in Jebel Ali, Dubai International Airport, and Dubai Cargo Village though the Dubai Airports Company. If you follow the lines, they ALL lead to Sheikh Ahmed.

Apparently there is a GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority and a Civil Aviation Authority. That I did not know. I can't find the connection, but I suspect the GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority falls under the Civil Aviation Authority, because the Civil Aviation Authority, "undertakes development of air transport industry in the Emirate of Dubai and oversees ALL aviation related activities." I also suspect it falls under the Civil Aviation Authority because the Civil Aviation Authority reports directly to Sheikh Ahmed. After all, he's president of the Authority. If I'm wrong, I stand corrected. In that case, the Civil Aviation Authority maybe goes to one of the other Sheikhs or just follows another branch to Sheikh Ahmed.

If, worst case(!), the GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority traces to another Sheikh, wanna bet Sheikh Ahmed has the guy on his speed dial?


Just to clear up your confusion:

The United Arab Emirates is a country comprised of 7 Emirates, Dubai is one of those. The UAE GCAA is the regulatory body that overseas aviation in the UAE. It is headquartered in Abu Dhabi. Here is their website:

https://www.gcaa.gov.ae/en/departmen...partments.aspx

The Dubai Civil Aviation Authority does exactly what Whip says. Here is their website:

https://www.dcaa.gov.ae/sitepages/en/internet.aspx



TP

Big E 757 04-12-2015 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by morerightrudder (Post 1859983)
An additional effect would also be that they'd then be forced to hire replacement pilots from other foreign carriers, thus further helping US carriers.

This should be done soon though before they get their in house cadet training spooled up.


The Big 3 management teams are very threatened by the ME3. I hope they figure this out soon. It wouldn't take to long to bring the whole house of cards down.

But I wonder, after a couple hundred left to come back, would there be any blowback on the remaining pilots over there as they tried to leave? They confiscate your passport when you return "in country", correct? Is there any way they could force guys to stay or turn the screws on guys vis a vi changing the rules for leaving...refusing to handover retirement savings and such?

I'd be worried if a lot of guys started leaving a few months before my exit. Good luck guys. If I knew anyone in management here I'd start hinting about this but unfortunately, I don't.

Jaded N Cynical 04-12-2015 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot (Post 1860734)
Just to clear up your confusion:

The United Arab Emirates is a country comprised of 7 Emirates, Dubai is one of those. The UAE GCAA is the regulatory body that overseas aviation in the UAE. It is headquartered in Abu Dhabi. Here is their website:

https://www.gcaa.gov.ae/en/departmen...partments.aspx

The Dubai Civil Aviation Authority does exactly what Whip says. Here is their website:

https://www.dcaa.gov.ae/sitepages/en/internet.aspx



TP

The bigger question is do they use the same source to supply their harems?


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