The Emirates Advantage… Not just subsidies
04-11-2015, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
Then throw in a guess how much most of their ground personnel earn. I cannot speak for Emirates since I didn't have the opportunity to speak with their people directly; however, when I lived there I spoke with security guards, people who worked on my villa, and people who worked in the mall -- they typically earned $2000 to $4000 a year, had their passports taken from them, and lived in spaces that would make the most ghetto crash pad feel like a palace. The way the oil monarchies treat their imported labor is criminal in most western countries.
04-11-2015, 04:10 PM
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ShyGuy,
And everyone one of those Chinese workers is better off than they were before working making clothing, iPhones, iPads, etc. and every Westerner who bought those items has the savings from buying (enter country) goods that are less expensive than if produced here. It's called comparative advantage and, ever since Ricardo postulated the theory we've all, Chinese, Vietnamese, and a Western have been better off.
GF
PS: His theory also killed off the English landed aristocracy.
And everyone one of those Chinese workers is better off than they were before working making clothing, iPhones, iPads, etc. and every Westerner who bought those items has the savings from buying (enter country) goods that are less expensive than if produced here. It's called comparative advantage and, ever since Ricardo postulated the theory we've all, Chinese, Vietnamese, and a Western have been better off.
GF
PS: His theory also killed off the English landed aristocracy.
04-11-2015, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by globalexpress
Nope, I'm pretty sure I am correct. He's president of the Dubai Civil Aviation Authority which regulates aviation in Dubai. Further, Sheik Ahmed is ALSO Chairman of "Dubai Airports Company" which sets airport fees and charges and is responsible for airport infrastructure which is overseen by.........wait for it.......the Dubai Civil Aviation Authority. When you're the King, eh, Sheik, you pretty much run everything.
You might want to try Google sometime, it really works.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gener...tion_Authority
04-11-2015, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Whip Whitaker
Umm,mmm No Global. The Dubai Civil Aviation Authority is responsible for managing and running Dubai Airport. The GCAA which covers the UAE is the aviation regulator. Shiek Ahmed is the head of the Dubai Civil Aviation Authority.
You might want to try Google sometime, it really works.
General Civil Aviation Authority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You might want to try Google sometime, it really works.
General Civil Aviation Authority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Apparently there is a GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority and a Civil Aviation Authority. That I did not know. I can't find the connection, but I suspect the GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority falls under the Civil Aviation Authority, because the Civil Aviation Authority, "undertakes development of air transport industry in the Emirate of Dubai and oversees ALL aviation related activities." I also suspect it falls under the Civil Aviation Authority because the Civil Aviation Authority reports directly to Sheikh Ahmed. After all, he's president of the Authority. If I'm wrong, I stand corrected. In that case, the Civil Aviation Authority maybe goes to one of the other Sheikhs or just follows another branch to Sheikh Ahmed.
If, worst case(!), the GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority traces to another Sheikh, wanna bet Sheikh Ahmed has the guy on his speed dial?
04-12-2015, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by VnavPath
A cocky attitude is NEVER a good thing, regardless if your interviewing somewhere new or at your current place of employment. I'm really disappointed to hear your friend has had this experience so far. I can assure you that an overwhelming majority (at least at EK) aren't this way at all. Everyone I know from here that has interviewed at a US Major has gotten hired (about 10 or so in the last year.) Not saying we don't have our village idiots, but a large majority are stellar guys and gals that I look forward to sharing the cockpit with again.
04-12-2015, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by globalexpress
According to the flow chart, the Dubai Airports Company builds airport infrastructure and sets fees and airport charges. Since the Dubai Civil Aviation authority has oversight of the Dubai Airports Company, then true, the Dubai Civil Aviation Authority directly/indirectly (it all leads to the same guy, does it matter?) runs Al Maktoum International Airport at Dubai World Central in Jebel Ali, Dubai International Airport, and Dubai Cargo Village though the Dubai Airports Company. If you follow the lines, they ALL lead to Sheikh Ahmed.
Apparently there is a GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority and a Civil Aviation Authority. That I did not know. I can't find the connection, but I suspect the GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority falls under the Civil Aviation Authority, because the Civil Aviation Authority, "undertakes development of air transport industry in the Emirate of Dubai and oversees ALL aviation related activities." I also suspect it falls under the Civil Aviation Authority because the Civil Aviation Authority reports directly to Sheikh Ahmed. After all, he's president of the Authority. If I'm wrong, I stand corrected. In that case, the Civil Aviation Authority maybe goes to one of the other Sheikhs or just follows another branch to Sheikh Ahmed.
If, worst case(!), the GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority traces to another Sheikh, wanna bet Sheikh Ahmed has the guy on his speed dial?
Apparently there is a GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority and a Civil Aviation Authority. That I did not know. I can't find the connection, but I suspect the GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority falls under the Civil Aviation Authority, because the Civil Aviation Authority, "undertakes development of air transport industry in the Emirate of Dubai and oversees ALL aviation related activities." I also suspect it falls under the Civil Aviation Authority because the Civil Aviation Authority reports directly to Sheikh Ahmed. After all, he's president of the Authority. If I'm wrong, I stand corrected. In that case, the Civil Aviation Authority maybe goes to one of the other Sheikhs or just follows another branch to Sheikh Ahmed.
If, worst case(!), the GENERAL Civil Aviation Authority traces to another Sheikh, wanna bet Sheikh Ahmed has the guy on his speed dial?
Just to clear up your confusion:
The United Arab Emirates is a country comprised of 7 Emirates, Dubai is one of those. The UAE GCAA is the regulatory body that overseas aviation in the UAE. It is headquartered in Abu Dhabi. Here is their website:
https://www.gcaa.gov.ae/en/departmen...partments.aspx
The Dubai Civil Aviation Authority does exactly what Whip says. Here is their website:
https://www.dcaa.gov.ae/sitepages/en/internet.aspx
TP
04-12-2015, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by morerightrudder
An additional effect would also be that they'd then be forced to hire replacement pilots from other foreign carriers, thus further helping US carriers.
This should be done soon though before they get their in house cadet training spooled up.
This should be done soon though before they get their in house cadet training spooled up.
The Big 3 management teams are very threatened by the ME3. I hope they figure this out soon. It wouldn't take to long to bring the whole house of cards down.
But I wonder, after a couple hundred left to come back, would there be any blowback on the remaining pilots over there as they tried to leave? They confiscate your passport when you return "in country", correct? Is there any way they could force guys to stay or turn the screws on guys vis a vi changing the rules for leaving...refusing to handover retirement savings and such?
I'd be worried if a lot of guys started leaving a few months before my exit. Good luck guys. If I knew anyone in management here I'd start hinting about this but unfortunately, I don't.
04-12-2015, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot
Just to clear up your confusion:
The United Arab Emirates is a country comprised of 7 Emirates, Dubai is one of those. The UAE GCAA is the regulatory body that overseas aviation in the UAE. It is headquartered in Abu Dhabi. Here is their website:
https://www.gcaa.gov.ae/en/departmen...partments.aspx
The Dubai Civil Aviation Authority does exactly what Whip says. Here is their website:
https://www.dcaa.gov.ae/sitepages/en/internet.aspx
TP
The United Arab Emirates is a country comprised of 7 Emirates, Dubai is one of those. The UAE GCAA is the regulatory body that overseas aviation in the UAE. It is headquartered in Abu Dhabi. Here is their website:
https://www.gcaa.gov.ae/en/departmen...partments.aspx
The Dubai Civil Aviation Authority does exactly what Whip says. Here is their website:
https://www.dcaa.gov.ae/sitepages/en/internet.aspx
TP
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