Skyone

Well finally we have found some common ground.

gloopy

LOLwut?

First of all, the regulators already looked at that and apparently didn't think it was that big of a deal. Because it wasn't. Getting one slot at an oddball time (due to Japanese protectionism, which you claim to be opposed to) and then suspending service during the low season isn't abnormal at all. At. All.

And that was before the hub was as built up (and growing) as it is now, and full time service looks like it'll happen, although realistic relief will obviously need to be granted on the definition of full time because as of now 2 cancellations in a row for WX or MX might count as a "service suspension" which is flat out ridiculous.

DL is suspending SVO service too the last few months of the year because of a massive dropoff in demand. I suppose EK should start dumping 380's on that too.

gloopy

They are both foreign oil lackeys. One holds their hands like a child and the other bows deeply to them. No difference. However, the current admin has been incredibly hostile to sunni rulers, even the relatively secular ones. Its borderline scorched earth, and the emerati are surrounded in it. They have to know the next "Arab spring" is always right around the corner. They are the ones with a dire, desperate, pathetically codependent need for our perpetual babysitting services. If they tried their lame tantrum on us that they tried on Canada, they'd be in a world of hurt. They have zero leverage. None.

Gillegan

Okay, so I'm not that great at dissecting theses things and I didn't read the entire 1000 page report but could anyone direct me to where in the report was the so-called "smoking gun" regarding Emirates? What I could find was a few vanilla balance sheet statements for 1996-1999 (?) that had nothing that I could find and then a 1 paragraph statement that said "it's out there" (I'm paraphrasing). In reading the White Paper, I assumed that there would certainly be SOME justification for the charges leveled.

If that's all they've got, disingenuous doesn't even begin to cover it. It would appear that the strategy here is to use the subsidies of Etihad and Qatar (I'm still assuming that there is at least some substance in those claims but given what's not in there on Emirates, that may not be a fair assumption!) to hammer Emirates which IS the biggest commercial threat to the US3 (which may work because it is a country to country dispute).

Gloopy, perhaps you could cite the evidence (other than just saying it's there because I said so). Seriously, that's it?

BenderRodriguez

I am sure they will when they get Vlad to finance them with even cheaper oil and no landing fees. The sheiks do speak the same language as Putin does ya know. (F America at every opportunity in case you didn't know)

globalexpress

There's not going to be much in the 1000 pages because Emirates is the "more transparent" (for lack of a better term) of the Big ME3. Apparently for the other two airlines, they had to piece together information from multiple, varied sources and that's what the 1000 pages represents. The case against Emirates is largely publicly available (severely discounted landing fees at shiny new airports, fuel hedge subsidies, Dubai Inc business dealings, etc.) so therefore not in the 1000 pages. For example, when the government took over a few billion bucks in fuel hedging contracts for Emirates, the transfer of the contracts was noted in Emirates' financial disclosures and footnoted in the original whitepaper, and therefore would likely not be within the 1000 pages. Not sure how that is disingenuous?

scambo1

Russia is tanking.

BenderRodriguez

Of course it is, but the point is that M R Rats will lobby for more subsidies to show the world just how wonderful they are. Since both Putin and the sheiks hate America, it's a win/win.

Whip Whitaker

Bender, do you even bother to comprehend what you write before you post? The Sheiks hate America? Really?

In the UAE, the United States has a quiet, potent ally nicknamed ?Little Sparta? - The Washington Post

Purple Drank

There's only one guy here who uses that term