Why I fly Cargo
05-12-2015 | 06:08 AM
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BINGO!
Bus cappy and parent of autistic person. We know exactly how to keep our daughter calm when she is in her own little world, but the big world has so many variables and limitations it would be a borderline meltdown at any moment. For this reason we travel by motor home. I'm not going to subject my daughter to some uppity lead FA's version normal, nor will I subject the traveling public and fellow airline employees to an out of control person when I can give my daughter a calm safe environment.
Mom should have had her needs met without relying on the crew and unfortunately used the "violence" word. To an autistic parent, violence means "self injurious behavior". To us airline types, well, we know what is means.
Both parties made errors here and a plane load of passengers with one special little girl got inconvenienced. Bad day all around, but no one got hurt.
Bus cappy and parent of autistic person. We know exactly how to keep our daughter calm when she is in her own little world, but the big world has so many variables and limitations it would be a borderline meltdown at any moment. For this reason we travel by motor home. I'm not going to subject my daughter to some uppity lead FA's version normal, nor will I subject the traveling public and fellow airline employees to an out of control person when I can give my daughter a calm safe environment.
Mom should have had her needs met without relying on the crew and unfortunately used the "violence" word. To an autistic parent, violence means "self injurious behavior". To us airline types, well, we know what is means.
Both parties made errors here and a plane load of passengers with one special little girl got inconvenienced. Bad day all around, but no one got hurt.
Fred, any chance you can send me a PM? Looks like you have it turned off. I know you from a few jobs ago back east.
Thanks.
05-12-2015 | 06:20 AM
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The moment the mother said her daughter would become hostile (scratching) she became a threat to the other passengers and crew. I do not believe there is a clear solution to this issue without knowing what was said to the Captain. Regarding the passenger's reaction, I think it would have been completely different had the child starting acting the way her mother "threatened".
05-12-2015 | 07:11 AM
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BINGO!
(I am a) Airbus CA and parent of (an) autistic child. We know exactly how to keep our daughter calm when she is in her own little world, but the big world has so many variables and limitations it would be a borderline meltdown at any moment. For this reason we travel by motor home. I'm not going to subject my daughter to some uppity lead FA's version (of what is) normal, nor will I subject the traveling public and fellow airline employees to an (possibly) out of control person when I can give my daughter a calm safe environment.
Mom (and Dad) should have had her needs met without relying on the crew...
(I am a) Airbus CA and parent of (an) autistic child. We know exactly how to keep our daughter calm when she is in her own little world, but the big world has so many variables and limitations it would be a borderline meltdown at any moment. For this reason we travel by motor home. I'm not going to subject my daughter to some uppity lead FA's version (of what is) normal, nor will I subject the traveling public and fellow airline employees to an (possibly) out of control person when I can give my daughter a calm safe environment.
Mom (and Dad) should have had her needs met without relying on the crew...
Case dismissed.
05-12-2015 | 07:43 AM
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Flying is not a right, public service, or charity.... I have no knowledge of the particulars of this situation so won't comment on it specifically but not every person out there can be accommodated. Unpredictable behavior and inability to follow instructions are the reasons we don't allow intoxicated or "overmedicated" people to fly.... Mental illness, developmentally disabled, or just plain crazy folks can present unique dangers to other passengers or themselves in a crowded cabin. There are other options available...
And yes I do have Autism experience in the family.
And yes I do have Autism experience in the family.
05-12-2015 | 08:31 AM
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Flying is not a right, public service, or charity.... I have no knowledge of the particulars of this situation so won't comment on it specifically but not every person out there can be accommodated. Unpredictable behavior and inability to follow instructions are the reasons we don't allow intoxicated or "overmedicated" people to fly.... Mental illness, developmentally disabled, or just plain crazy folks can present unique dangers to other passengers or themselves in a crowded cabin. There are other options available...
And yes I do have Autism experience in the family.
And yes I do have Autism experience in the family.
Couldn't have said it better. Disabilities cause limitations. Flying by airline might be a limitation in this case. Want to fly- charter a plane. Can't afford it? Train, boat, or automobile are options. A double amputee doesn't sue a ski shop for not renting him skis. He's limited by his disability and no fault of the ski shop. This girl my not be able to fly and is limited by her disability. That's not united fault.
05-12-2015 | 09:21 AM
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I'm sure flying cargo has its own rewards but at least with passenger flying I don't have to wear a sensor badge to give the Doc every couple of weeks to make sure none of my passengers were radioactive, leaked chemicals, or breathed toxic fumes on me!
Last edited by Merlyn; 05-12-2015 at 09:23 AM. Reason: Clarity
05-12-2015 | 09:47 AM
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Ha! True...I even fly giant crates of human waste.
05-12-2015 | 10:28 AM
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Hahaha! As if interacting with the traveling public is a good deal? But you go ahead and make their day better as mediator/greeter/problem solver, I'll be up front where the licensed professionals belong.
05-12-2015 | 11:22 AM
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05-12-2015 | 11:45 AM
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