Passenger assists with landing of CO 753
01-28-2007, 04:26 PM
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Yea, except the plane they were flying had three auto pilots, autoland, auto spoilers, and auto brakes. No need to hand fly at all. 
Most FA's are know some of what's going on in the cockpit. They spend some time up there and they notice things. Many ask questions.
Most FA's are know some of what's going on in the cockpit. They spend some time up there and they notice things. Many ask questions.
01-28-2007, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
Apparently, when the capt of the 753 became ill, the acting F/O who was apparently also a captain giving UOE (upgrade operating experience) to the deceased asked if any pilots were on board. A 150 hour private pilot answered the call.
http://www.airportbusiness.com/artic...tion=3&id=9926
My thing is this...how does this scenario reconcile with the rules about not letting non-crewmembers into the flight deck? How did he know this guy wasn't a terrorist, etc? On a lighter note, there probably isn't one of us on this forum who hasn't dreamed of this very scenario.
http://www.airportbusiness.com/artic...tion=3&id=9926
My thing is this...how does this scenario reconcile with the rules about not letting non-crewmembers into the flight deck? How did he know this guy wasn't a terrorist, etc? On a lighter note, there probably isn't one of us on this forum who hasn't dreamed of this very scenario.
01-28-2007, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by all4114all
It probably would have been better to see if one of the airline executives were on board. They always like to give the public the impression that the airplanes fly themselves, while the pilot who only works "80" hours a month is just monitoring things.
You could let the exec hand fly while you work the radio and discuss what he thinks a pilot is really worth.
You could let the exec hand fly while you work the radio and discuss what he thinks a pilot is really worth.
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01-28-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by razorseal
how do we know if the FO isnt a terrorist?
I'm sure there are terrorist everyday out there flying around just waiting for a CA to pass away and for the remaining pilot to or a cabin crew member to pick them by chance if there isn't anyone else on board more qualified. You watch to much TV. Spend more time getting time and maybe one day...
01-28-2007, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
Apparently, when the capt of the 753 became ill, the acting F/O who was apparently also a captain giving UOE (upgrade operating experience) to the deceased asked if any pilots were on board. A 150 hour private pilot answered the call.
That shouldn'r be surprising.....the PP was onl 100 hrs away from being hired at a RJ operator!
That shouldn'r be surprising.....the PP was onl 100 hrs away from being hired at a RJ operator!
01-29-2007, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JetJocF14
It's every PP dream to be able to do what happened up there that day. Hey it worked for Kurt Russell,,,,,not so good for Steven Segal as I recall in that movie.............
01-29-2007, 08:11 AM
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150-Hour Cessna Pilot Helps Out In Continental Emergency
Stephen Brown says he has no intention of abandoning his successful air conditioning business in Albuquerque, but he’s done something most private pilots haven’t. The 47-year-old 182 pilot was asked to take the right seat of a Continental Airlines Boeing 757 after the captain collapsed at the controls (he later died) shortly after takeoff from Houston bound for Puerto Vallarta 10 days ago. Brown, along with his wife and some friends, was among 210 passengers heading on vacation when, less than an hour into the flight, Brown said he knew something was terribly wrong not long after a flight attendant asked if there was a doctor on board. “Anyone who could see up front could see them pulling one of the pilots out of the cockpit,” Brown told AVweb in an exclusive interview. While a doctor, a nurse and a couple of sports medicine specialists performed CPR on the stricken pilot (the cause of his death has not been released yet) another announcement was made asking if there were any licensed pilots on board. It turns out Brown and one of his friends were. “We quickly went up front to see if there was anything we could do to help out,” Brown said.
Click here to hear AVweb's exclusive podcast interview with Stephen Brown about his experience on the Continental flight.
A Strange But Familiar View
After presenting himself to the cabin crew, Stephen Brown was asked to sit in one of the front passenger seats while the right-seat pilot switched sides. He then transitioned from a 182 cockpit to the glass screen spectacle that is a modern airliner’s command post. “Gosh, there’s a lot going on in there compared to a 182,” he said. Brown said the pilot introduced himself as a 28-year veteran of this world. “At that moment I was probably the least nervous person on the plane,” he said. Brown said it was obvious the pilot was more than capable of safely landing the plane himself but the concept of cockpit resource management dictates that two sets of eyes, hands and feet are better than one and, despite his relative lack of experience, he was able to make a contribution. The pilot had Brown handle much of the radio work and other routine chores as he set up for the emergency landing at McAllen, Texas. He set the flaps at the pilot’s direction and also lowered the landing gear. Brown said he believes his help allowed the pilot to “focus a little bit more on flying the plane first” given the emotional impact of having his colleague “collapse on the yoke” beside him. He said he was struck by the professionalism and the obvious effect of rigorous and repetitive training that allowed the pilot to shake off the shock of the incident and concentrate on handling the aircraft. Brown said they broke out of the clouds at 800 feet and he was surprised at how familiar the view on final was to him. The aircraft landed without incident and Brown said he marveled at the professionalism of the whole crew in handling the emergency. Brown and the other passengers continued to Puerto Vallarta with a fresh crew.
-Everyone involved did a good job. Too bad Z couldn't be saved.
Stephen Brown says he has no intention of abandoning his successful air conditioning business in Albuquerque, but he’s done something most private pilots haven’t. The 47-year-old 182 pilot was asked to take the right seat of a Continental Airlines Boeing 757 after the captain collapsed at the controls (he later died) shortly after takeoff from Houston bound for Puerto Vallarta 10 days ago. Brown, along with his wife and some friends, was among 210 passengers heading on vacation when, less than an hour into the flight, Brown said he knew something was terribly wrong not long after a flight attendant asked if there was a doctor on board. “Anyone who could see up front could see them pulling one of the pilots out of the cockpit,” Brown told AVweb in an exclusive interview. While a doctor, a nurse and a couple of sports medicine specialists performed CPR on the stricken pilot (the cause of his death has not been released yet) another announcement was made asking if there were any licensed pilots on board. It turns out Brown and one of his friends were. “We quickly went up front to see if there was anything we could do to help out,” Brown said.
Click here to hear AVweb's exclusive podcast interview with Stephen Brown about his experience on the Continental flight.
A Strange But Familiar View
After presenting himself to the cabin crew, Stephen Brown was asked to sit in one of the front passenger seats while the right-seat pilot switched sides. He then transitioned from a 182 cockpit to the glass screen spectacle that is a modern airliner’s command post. “Gosh, there’s a lot going on in there compared to a 182,” he said. Brown said the pilot introduced himself as a 28-year veteran of this world. “At that moment I was probably the least nervous person on the plane,” he said. Brown said it was obvious the pilot was more than capable of safely landing the plane himself but the concept of cockpit resource management dictates that two sets of eyes, hands and feet are better than one and, despite his relative lack of experience, he was able to make a contribution. The pilot had Brown handle much of the radio work and other routine chores as he set up for the emergency landing at McAllen, Texas. He set the flaps at the pilot’s direction and also lowered the landing gear. Brown said he believes his help allowed the pilot to “focus a little bit more on flying the plane first” given the emotional impact of having his colleague “collapse on the yoke” beside him. He said he was struck by the professionalism and the obvious effect of rigorous and repetitive training that allowed the pilot to shake off the shock of the incident and concentrate on handling the aircraft. Brown said they broke out of the clouds at 800 feet and he was surprised at how familiar the view on final was to him. The aircraft landed without incident and Brown said he marveled at the professionalism of the whole crew in handling the emergency. Brown and the other passengers continued to Puerto Vallarta with a fresh crew.
-Everyone involved did a good job. Too bad Z couldn't be saved.
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