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Old 01-29-2007, 09:18 AM
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Wow out of all the days for this to happen MFE has ceilings at 800... I got my PPL at HRL which is down the int he Valley and I flew every time I was scheduled to except for a handful of days due to wx. I bet Brown felt like a bad ass.
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:12 AM
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-Everyone involved did a good job. Too bad Z couldn't be saved.
What was the cause of death? I assume a heart attack, but nothing confirmed in print.
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski

Your an idiot
LOL! Am I the only one here who sees the irony in that statement?
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:37 AM
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The bottom line is that "capt" was an idiot. He could have EASILY flown and landed the 757 by himself.
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot View Post
The bottom line is that "capt" was an idiot. He could have EASILY flown and landed the 757 by himself.
Wow. I bet you are really loved by your fellow crewmembers.

He made a decision during an emergency, and ALPA will back him up (in case someone even tries to come down on him).


Maybe it's because he didn't have the "I'm God" mentality that you have. I know you would have hand flown it all the way down alone, which is fine, more power to you.

He saw an advantage in the cabin, and felt like it was a good idea.

Everything worked out ok, so I'm not complaining. Why you would call a check Captain (acting F/O during that flight) an idiot is beyond me.
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Old 01-29-2007, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot View Post
The bottom line is that "capt" was an idiot. He could have EASILY flown and landed the 757 by himself.
Seems to me that when I took a checkride for my Commercial Certificate the FAA seemed interested in this little thing called CRM. In fact, had I not known about it, I wouldn't have passed the ride. They have this CRAZY idea that you should use all available resources to safely conduct the flight. Flying a 757 down in IMC after dealing with the stress of having the guy next to you who you spent the past few days getting to know, die on you...Yeah, that's just the time to play the "mine's bigger than yours" game (insert inappropriate comment about Hotmommapilot here) and say, I AM BIG AIRLINE PILOT...I CAN DO IT!!

I have no doubt in the world that he could have safely landed the plane, but if you have help available there is ABSOLUTLY no reason you shouldn't use it.

Give me a break MOMMA!
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Old 01-29-2007, 12:27 PM
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"She" sure is always the ray of sunshine and warm fuzzies around here, isn't she?! I STILL think she's not a she -- and is just goofing on all of us. If so, good job, HMP!!!!
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Old 01-29-2007, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot View Post
The bottom line is that "capt" was an idiot. He could have EASILY flown and landed the 757 by himself.
Pilots like you totally blow my mind away. I've never figured out how you are made. I've seen and heard your type from all facets of aviation wether it is military, civilian, corporate, flight instuctor, or ad-hoc freight. But regardless of the background or ever figuring out where or how you are made to feel this way the final outcome is obvious. Your nothing but the idiot you call others.

If you truly are an FO on the 767 then it would already be apparent to you that anyone else who has large jet experience knows we are capable of flying, landing, or handling emergencies single pilot or we wouldn't be able to demonstrate enough competency to pass a type ride in the first place. While the type is CRM on two pilot crews we all demonstrate enough airmanship skills to satisfy this basic concept.

Trust me when I tell you, this CK Airman was more than qualified to fly single pilot. And he most certainly is not an idiot. He demonstrated superior thought and decision making so he didn't have to tell the press about his superior airmanship skills.

It is pilots like you who in a situation like this would start thinking how you are going to speak at your press conference while still handling the emergency.

Next time be a little more proud of one of your own who may have just saved a commercial jet from crashing and scaring passengers away from your airline and mine. And in the meantime SHUT THE **** UP!!
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Wow. I bet you are really loved by your fellow crewmembers.

He made a decision during an emergency, and ALPA will back him up (in case someone even tries to come down on him).


Maybe it's because he didn't have the "I'm God" mentality that you have. I know you would have hand flown it all the way down alone, which is fine, more power to you.

He saw an advantage in the cabin, and felt like it was a good idea.

Everything worked out ok, so I'm not complaining. Why you would call a check Captain (acting F/O during that flight) an idiot is beyond me.
CASS is in place for a reason. Bottom line.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot View Post
CASS is in place for a reason. Bottom line.
OH please. Yah right, like that's your real reason for calling that training Captain (acting F/O) an 'idiot.'

CalPilotToo said it PERFECTLY

It is pilots like you who in a situation like this would start thinking how you are going to speak at your press conference while still handling the emergency.

That is you HotMamaPilot! Now slam on your IPod and tot that backpack, and talk about how you saved the day because you're God.
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