Delta shifting overseas ventures?
11-11-2015 | 06:57 AM
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Ken Griffin was the highest paid hedge fund manager in 2014 - Fortune
The highest paid hedge fund manager made 1.3 billion last year. For all those who think these guys need your protection I think you reevaluate. Even if the Government took 90% of his income he would still be left with more money than any pilot would make in 50 lifetimes.
The highest paid hedge fund manager made 1.3 billion last year. For all those who think these guys need your protection I think you reevaluate. Even if the Government took 90% of his income he would still be left with more money than any pilot would make in 50 lifetimes.
11-12-2015 | 10:22 AM
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Funny how a comment is made about some element of conservative government and the Libs come out swinging. "Let's ignore the realities of how big government actually operates and swing and insult at anybody who doesn't agree with us."
Remember kids it takes a left and right wing to make the ship fly. We have a bit of a fuel imbalance here because the pilot has a blind spot in his right eye. He can't see the right side because he is on far left side of the wing.
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Remember kids it takes a left and right wing to make the ship fly. We have a bit of a fuel imbalance here because the pilot has a blind spot in his right eye. He can't see the right side because he is on far left side of the wing.
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11-12-2015 | 10:42 AM
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What's funny is how you don't seem to think conservatives do the same. Read just about any other thread on here...
11-13-2015 | 04:27 AM
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Emphasis added.
The very job of a union is to redistribute wealth from the company to its members through collective bargaining over pay, benefits and work rules/conditions. Extracting things that companies would not pay of their own volition is by definition the redistribution of wealth, even if one can argue that such redistribution has been earned.
When you have an employee number and can be swapped out of your job for any one of hundreds/thousands of people who can do the exact same job,
The very job of a union is to redistribute wealth from the company to its members through collective bargaining over pay, benefits and work rules/conditions. Extracting things that companies would not pay of their own volition is by definition the redistribution of wealth, even if one can argue that such redistribution has been earned.
When you have an employee number and can be swapped out of your job for any one of hundreds/thousands of people who can do the exact same job,
It is ironic, however, that by allowing seniority to be non-portable, the "union" effectively handcuffs us to our current employer and lowers our leverage to negotiate better terms. Management knows we can't move laterally without trashing our seniority. In other words, the "union" isn't a union at all.
With the impending pilot shortage, that is a significant handicap for us and a boost for management.
Back to your regularly scheduled leftist tripe.
11-13-2015 | 12:25 PM
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I don't even know where to start shredding the faulty conclusions in your post. Frankly, it's not worth my time.
It is ironic, however, that by allowing seniority to be non-portable, the "union" effectively handcuffs us to our current employer and lowers our leverage to negotiate better terms. Management knows we can't move laterally without trashing our seniority. In other words, the "union" isn't a union at all.
With the impending pilot shortage, that is a significant handicap for us and a boost for management.
Back to your regularly scheduled leftist tripe.
It is ironic, however, that by allowing seniority to be non-portable, the "union" effectively handcuffs us to our current employer and lowers our leverage to negotiate better terms. Management knows we can't move laterally without trashing our seniority. In other words, the "union" isn't a union at all.
With the impending pilot shortage, that is a significant handicap for us and a boost for management.
Back to your regularly scheduled leftist tripe.
Your points regarding the theoretical advantages of having cross-company seniority are very well-taken, but I don't view it as a reasonable goal given the RLA, the existence of multiple unions (and the divisions within each) and multiple companies (that all have an interest in preserving the status quo).
The only thing that would make this happen is a national pilots strike that shuts down the industry. I view that as very improbable for multiple reasons.
If you can come up with another plan to make it happen, I am, as Ross Perot would say, all ears. I don't have the pretense of having all the answers.
11-15-2015 | 10:52 AM
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11-15-2015 | 11:12 AM
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11-16-2015 | 08:01 AM
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Seems to me that what we really should have is not a Union but a Guild, covering ALL Pilots. Your seniority is within the Guild, and is therefore portable.
If an airline wants Pilots, they pay the rate that the Guild sets. An Airline can pay MORE than the Guild rate, but never less. Got a less-appealing base to staff, or want to get current/qualified in type, you're going to have to pay above Guild rate.
Let the airlines compete for our labor, instead of us competing for jobs.
Yes, I know, it won't happen, but if we were smarter about it, that is a better way than what we have. And there is no better time to do it than the coming decade.
If an airline wants Pilots, they pay the rate that the Guild sets. An Airline can pay MORE than the Guild rate, but never less. Got a less-appealing base to staff, or want to get current/qualified in type, you're going to have to pay above Guild rate.
Let the airlines compete for our labor, instead of us competing for jobs.
Yes, I know, it won't happen, but if we were smarter about it, that is a better way than what we have. And there is no better time to do it than the coming decade.
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